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To: thefactor

“Stopping Putin has cost exactly zero American active-duty soldiers. “

That is not a valid statement. NATO members (including USA) were bombed in a headquarter planning facility in Ukraine by Russia.

I am not here to argue this, it is pointless. The Ukraine was taken over by a State Dept/CIA color revolution, then turned into a nightmare.

NO ONE will win this WAR.


22 posted on 07/18/2025 4:27:53 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: Texas Fossil
The Ukraine was taken over by a State Dept/CIA color revolution, then turned into a nightmare.

They sucked us into the mess they made, and *still* are vying for regime change. Something like "oh, pffft, belch, potatoes and eggs are expensive, Putin will be gone any day now, and Russia will (stupidly) agree to ceasefire."

Neocons never learn - just move to their next humanitarian dumpster fire.

29 posted on 07/18/2025 4:41:03 AM PDT by AAABEST (That time Washington DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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To: Texas Fossil
The Ukraine was taken over by a State Dept/CIA color revolution,

Please stop with Russian talking points.

Both sides tried to influence Ukraine, Putin even tried poisoning a Ukraine president, but its silly to argue Ukraine wanted to join the EU because of the CIA. People in Ukraine travel, everyone sees the wealth in the EU vs the poverty in Russia.

These people were not mind controlled by the CIA, they like most people wanted a better life, thats why they wanted to join the EU and not Russia


34 posted on 07/18/2025 4:42:18 AM PDT by tlozo (“We get a lot of bullshit thrown at us by Putin, if you want to know the truth,” Trump )
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To: Texas Fossil
"NATO members (including USA) were bombed in a headquarter planning facility in Ukraine by Russia."

I have seen no evidence of this. The most recent American citizen to die in Ukraine was 62-year-old. He was not a soldier.

Regardless, if we say we want NATO fighting this war, then you should be happy NATO is fighting this war.

38 posted on 07/18/2025 4:50:16 AM PDT by thefactor
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