Posted on 07/17/2025 11:19:19 AM PDT by BenLurkin
Decades ago, my friend who worked for the Blood Bank part time told me to NEVER give blood because I’m AB negative, the universal plasma donor.
They’d bleed me dry.
89 now and in great health. Weigh 116, take one prescription drug.
“on the surface” its completely against the word of God for how He designed humans being created.
So, sure if a person doesn’t care to believe in the word of God, than nope nothing wrong with it.
We’ll see won’t we cause you don’t count your chickens...
Not everyone believes exactly as you do, And many people don’t believe that God would deny a child a healthy life, if it could be achieved by science.
(In addition, I don’t recall God addressing the issue of genetic engineering or gene therapy. He didn’t address nuclear energy or space exploration, for that matter..)
“In Him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of Him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of His will.” – Ephesians 1:11
That says nothing about alleviating suffering through science.
“Do not deceive yourselves. If any of you think you are wise by the standards of this age, you should become ‘fools’ so that you may become wise.” – 1 Corinthians 3:18
When the Lord says, "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you", who is any "scientist" to defy Him?
We are already doing gene therapy in utero, and it’s been successful; and science will some day be able to to treat diseases this way after birth.
If you would deny your suffering child that therapy, because you believe that God made the child’s DNA that way and it should stay that way no matter the suffering -
Then in my opinion you would not be ‘religious’; you would be a religious fanatic and guilty of leaving your child to suffer.
Already doing it... so because we're doing it, we should continue. Again, why not continue human sacrifice and bloodletting?
It's been successful... let's ignore any failures.
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/sarepta-reports-second-case-liver-failure-death-after-its-gene-therapy-treatment-2025-06-15/
https://www.geneticsandsociety.org/article/failure-genetic-therapies-huntingtons-devastates-community
Deny suffering child... yeah, it's about saving the children.
Religious fanatic... as though religion is the only thing that would oppose "science". Science opposes science but especially opposes junk science.
Science will some day be able... speculation at best. They have no idea if it will work. This is "the end justifies the means" when these "scientists" only speculate what the end might be, and ignore the possible repercussions for generations to come.
Your comparison of gene therapy with bloodletting and human sacrifice is preposterous.
And every new treatment has involved some failures - many people suffered adverse effects in the development of polio vaccines; dozens of people died in the race to the moon.
I guess we shouldn’t try to progress in any area, because there is always risk. But the risk averse never go forward or achieve much worthy of the genius with which God blessed us - and which I assume He intended that we USE.
I’m finished.
Kamala would love that Venn diagram.
If you know the written word, given for our instruction, our help, a Way to find what God offers.. there is a plan.
There is one story .. the people decided to build a stairway to heaven. God saw their plans..
He was not pleased. God said let’s go down there. God stopped them
He divided them, changed their languages and scattered them all over the world.
There is a plan. One man one woman.
Intelligent humans want to play God. Not smart!
Give it time.
Bloodletting and human sacrifice seemed like perfectly reasonable treatments at the time.
In some cases only the mother knows not new.
Not master race.
Cousin marriage.
The resulting birth defects are costing the NHS and social services a packet in the UK.
As opposed to this, I would rather adopt at that point.
I am not so concerned about leaving a DNA trace of my existence as others seem to be.
Sometimes people don’t know until a child is conceived that there’s a problem. The issue is larger than just this ‘3 person parentage’ business. Even if one objects to that, there are lots of questions still to be answered; and the arguments here seem to boil down to ‘Don’t fool with what God has done’ - even though we do so all the time in many different ways, and have for a long time.
As gene therapy progresses, more and more diseases that can be identified in utero will possibly be capable of being resolved; as well as problems after birth that can be helped with gene therapy.
It’s a very big topic, and I don’t believe it can be ethically answered in all of its aspects by Religious Fundamentalist rigidity.
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