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To: BobL

Trump had a peace agreement that both zelenski and putin were about to agree to.....

Then the conman zelensky showed his true colors, that he’s never been interested in a peace deal, by sending drone attacks to destroy several russian airbases and other installations.

Now the ukraine bros are all pushing for offensive arms for zelensky to attack putin with, putting U.S. or EU troops in ukraine so they can ‘defend’ themselves if they get incidentally attacked by russia....

And some have said if ukraine had nukes, russia wouldn’t be attacking....


5 posted on 07/15/2025 4:24:04 AM PDT by backpacker_c
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To: backpacker_c

“Trump had a peace agreement that both zelenski and putin were about to agree to.....”

I doubt they were anywhere near close to a peace deal, considering the public statements from both sides. But if a 30-day cease fire is considered a ‘peace deal’, then that could have been the case. The Neocons obviously wanted an unconditional cease fire, so that they could re-arm, re-position, and re-build their Ukrainian Proxy units, along with European ground troops coming in (per their promises) - Putin didn’t want a the deal because he would get sent to the gulag if he agreed to it, and replaced by a hard-liner.

So it would have a been a conditional cease fire...pretty much everything would freeze on the battlefield. The Neocons didn’t like that plan, so nothing agreed to.

As to a REAL peace plan, like the one that ended WW2, nothing is close there as it would require major border revisions. The Neocon preference is to keep the killing going on, rather than fully end the war - they’ve made that clear, over and over.


6 posted on 07/15/2025 4:39:07 AM PDT by BobL
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To: backpacker_c

IMHO, neither side is willing to stop until they get all they want. The US should only sell arms into the mess.


10 posted on 07/15/2025 5:57:08 AM PDT by glorgau
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