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When It Comes To Islam, Are We In The West Too Stupid To Survive?
American Thinker ^ | 6 Jul, 2025 | Richard C. Crandall

Posted on 07/06/2025 4:18:34 AM PDT by MtnClimber

Because we Westerners constantly lie to ourselves about Islamic ideology and its societal regulations, we have no idea what we’re facing.

I question whether we will survive as a nation or are even worth saving. If nothing else, our refusal to recognize Islam for what it is seems to presage our demise.

Putting aside the damage leftism does to American culture, we are also at risk from Islam, about which we still remain appallingly ignorant 24 years after 9/11. Instead, we have adopted the myth of “Moderate Muslims.” Before elaborating on Moderate Muslims, we must ask, “What other groups get to use the prefix “moderate?” During WWII, were there moderate Nazi members of Congress who claimed to only believe in the “good” parts of Mein Kampf, such as free health care. Were there moderate members of the KKK who only went out occasionally lynching, burning, and raping? And where are the moderate wife beaters who avoid hitting the face and who don’t leave visible bruising?

Moderate Muslims adopt a cafeteria approach to Islam, ignoring those they dislike or that play badly in the West, all while clinging to the core message: A worldwide caliphate, free of all other faiths, except those that are useful to their Islamic overlords.

The current image of a Moderate Muslim is Ilhan Omar. That begins with how she dresses. Although Muslim women are required to be completely covered, except “the eyes or one eye to see the way,” Omar wears Western clothing, often with a turban. Her eyebrows look carefully groomed, but in Islam removing eyebrow hair is forbidden because you cannot alter what the Islamic god created (here, here, and here). Conversely, pubic and armpit hair must be removed, and there is the female genital mutilation exception to altering what the Islamic god created.

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To: MtnClimber

Islam is a violent world-expansionist ideology cleverly disguised as a religion. Many Westerners think it is just another religion.


21 posted on 07/06/2025 5:24:14 AM PDT by I want the USA back (America is once again GREAT! )
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To: MtnClimber
Instead, we have adopted the myth of “Moderate Muslims.”

Not all of us have, but it is most definitely a myth.

22 posted on 07/06/2025 5:24:43 AM PDT by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: MtnClimber

Time will tell. Likely...we “ain’t seen nothing yet”.


23 posted on 07/06/2025 5:24:49 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: MtnClimber

East times...weak men.


24 posted on 07/06/2025 5:25:22 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: rrrod
If they have Muslim "friends", here's an interesting thing to do.

Be alone with one, or in a friendly, relaxed situation. Disarm him or her with friendly banter.

Then this or similar:... "[their name], I know you are a Muslim, and I would never think of trying to convert you to anything else. But do you, as a Muslim, believe that other people should be free to believe in their religions too, whatever they may be, Catholic, Jew, Hindu, Presbyterian, Baptist, and so forth? Watch their eyes. Listen to their response.

The first Muslim I asked the question regarding other religions had been a friend for around six months. He was about as "moderate" and a friendly Muslim as you'll ever meet.

He was well educated, a Colonel in the Egyptian army, his wife a surgeon.

When I asked him the question, you should have seen the look of pure chilling hatred that came across his face. He looked me right in the eye. His response: "There is no God but Allah, and Muhammed is his messenger".

Then he went right back to normal.

Every non Muslim (infidel) needs to read a true translation of the Holy Quran or Koran. Then they might understand why this is happening and why it will never stop happening. Forget the ones in the bookstores, they have been altered to make Islam look like a "religion of peace".

IMHO these are probably the most accurate translations, and they are FREE. https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/16955

25 posted on 07/06/2025 5:29:40 AM PDT by Mogger ( 7th generation Vermonter, refugee in New Hampshire hoping NH remains sane.)
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To: Mogger

My aunt and uncle, my wife and I were eating at a restaurant in Westchester county, NY. My relatives had know the waiter for many years and considered him a friend. He was very professional and friendly. He was also a Muslim.

So I asked him “the question”. The same look of extreme hatred came over his face, and the same answer. “There is no God but Allah and Muhommud is his messenger”. His answer and demeanor really shook up my aunt and uncle. They never ate there again.


26 posted on 07/06/2025 5:30:48 AM PDT by Mogger ( 7th generation Vermonter, refugee in New Hampshire hoping NH remains sane.)
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To: MtnClimber
Because we Westerners constantly lie to ourselves about Islamic ideology..

Who is this we this author writes about?

I'm really tired of the generalization of Americans.

Speak for yourself, asshat.

27 posted on 07/06/2025 5:30:53 AM PDT by chief lee runamok ( Le Flâneur @Large)
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To: Sicon
I don't dislike Muslims. They are not "bad" people, even the ones many consider "terrorists". In fact, in the world of true believing Muslims, the ones non Muslims call "terrorists" are the "good guys".

We just need to be realistic. They don't think like us. We don't think like them.

We do not belong in their countries trying to "win hearts and minds". That, more than anything else reinforces us being the great Satan.

Large numbers of them don't belong here, as when they are in great enough numbers, they will kill the infidels as they are commanded to.

That would be us. Nothing personal, just the way it is.

28 posted on 07/06/2025 5:32:32 AM PDT by Mogger ( 7th generation Vermonter, refugee in New Hampshire hoping NH remains sane.)
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To: MtnClimber

“Because we Westerners constantly lie to ourselves about Islamic ideology and its societal regulations, we have no idea what we’re facing.”

We? Speak for yourself. I’ve known all I need to know about them since the ‘70s.


29 posted on 07/06/2025 5:36:59 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: rrrod

After 9/11 who said “Islam is the religion of peace”?

The US President.

Appeasement NEVER works, we should know this by now.


30 posted on 07/06/2025 5:51:47 AM PDT by Netz ( and looking for a way ti IMPROVE mankind.)
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To: MtnClimber

[We Westerners lie to ourselves about Islamic ideology and its societal regulations, we have no idea what we’re facing.]

Not everybody. Founding Father Thomas Jefferson warned about thedangers of Islam’s ideology. Years later, American fought in a war to free Europe from the grips of Islam.

America’s leadership heeded that warning until Obama’s Pesidency. He lied about the beautiful role Islam played in America’s founding. In actuality they were the pirates who pillaged the trading routes.

Now the camel’s nose is under the tent. Obama and Biden initiated mass Islam migration into America, and the Muslim 3 step program is already in place.

1. Enter as a religion of peace and populate.
2. Become political
3. Conquer the nation


31 posted on 07/06/2025 5:53:24 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose GOD is the LORD. Psalm 33:12)
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To: MtnClimber
It's not that we're too stupid. It's that the Democrats are.

The Democrat Party is a collection of people who have one thing that binds them together: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

The enemy of every Democrat is America and American Patriots. The single unifying element is their seething hatred for us.

This is why they are all spitting mad about everything we say and do. This is at the core of TDS. This is why they have no political platform. This is why they are so ugly.

32 posted on 07/06/2025 5:56:35 AM PDT by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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To: stars & stripes forever

The question is is, what will America’s present leadership do about it?


33 posted on 07/06/2025 5:58:57 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose GOD is the LORD. Psalm 33:12)
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To: JewishRighter

“Rivers of Blood Speech”

It seems that the British have decided to completely destroy themselves in an effort to prove they are not racist and as an atonement for that speech.


34 posted on 07/06/2025 6:00:07 AM PDT by odawg
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To: MtnClimber

The Mohammedans have been at war with civilization for centuries, and we still don’t even admit it.


35 posted on 07/06/2025 6:00:19 AM PDT by EastTexasTraveler
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To: MtnClimber

BTTT


36 posted on 07/06/2025 6:43:33 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: MtnClimber

How many Muslims are ‘outed’ by other Muslims for sex crimes, gang rapes, terrorism plans, etc.???

Crickets...


37 posted on 07/06/2025 7:12:36 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: MtnClimber
"When It Comes To Islam, Are We In The West Too Stupid To Survive?"

Yes.

People I talk to about this believe this is just another immigrant group and have no understand of the historical conflicts between the West and Islam.

These people have been trying to conquer the West for centuries and most people are oblivious.

38 posted on 07/06/2025 7:15:39 AM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: Mark17

They want to use Islam, to bring down America.


If that’s their thesis, then they will be eaten alive by Islam.


39 posted on 07/06/2025 7:16:28 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: JewishRighter

“Nor can we ourselves pick and choose where and in what parts of the world we shall use this or that kind of standard” - Quote is from President Franklin D. Roosevelt

The quote “We will have African standards in Africa, Asian standards in Asia and perhaps British standards here at home. We have not that choice to make” was made by Enoch Powell during a speech in the House of Commons in 1959, where he was denouncing the killing of 11 rebels by security guards at the Hola detention camp in Kenya.

https://www.newstatesman.com/long-reads/2010/02/powell-speech-kenya-hola

Also see Enoch Powell’s Rivers of Blood speech on 20 April 1968 to a meeting of the Conservative Political Centre in Birmingham.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivers_of_Blood_speech


40 posted on 07/06/2025 7:32:12 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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