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To: marcusmaximus

I respect that Trump pushed for peace. I respect that he forced little z to the peace table by many means. Putin is now the obstacle. The only way to
Force Putin to the table now is to bankrupt him, or have Ukraine take large sections of Russia to force peace.


4 posted on 07/05/2025 4:50:44 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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To: Pete Dovgan

The obstacles aren’t the two fighting this proxy war.

The obstacles are the people that have pushed and funded it.


7 posted on 07/05/2025 4:57:09 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Pete Dovgan
What gives you the idea that Ukraine could take "large chunks of Russia"?

Nothing I've seen indicates they have that ability. Instead they appear to be consistently losing territory, albeit at a slow rate.

Also, the USA and Europe has already put 17 rounds of sanctions on Russia. The result has been far from bankruptcy: in fact the opposite. Russia has the fastest growing economy in Europe.

Russia seems to have the upper hand in the conflict. Whether the USA is in a position to change that is uncertain. The recent admission that we have depleted our weapons systems doesn't seem to bode well for an even bigger commitment of free weapons to Ukraine. Trump is a great negotiator, but some deals can't be made. He failed on Canada and Greenland, for instance and he may fail on Russia-Ukraine too. His counter-party has no interest or necessity to make a deal at all.

18 posted on 07/05/2025 6:11:36 AM PDT by Vlad0
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