Posted on 07/04/2025 3:53:36 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
Vladimir Putin has claimed in a phone call with Donald Trump that Russia played a role in the formation of the United States.
Speaking a day before America celebrates Independence Day, the Russian leader reportedly congratulated Mr Trump about its national holiday, held on July 4.
According to a report by Tass, a state-owned news agency, Yury Ushakov, the Russian presidential aide, said during the call “it was noted from our side that Russia played an important role in the formation of American statehood including during the War of Independence 250 years ago, and then during the Civil War, which ended 160 years ago”.
He added: “It was stated that our countries are linked not only by the alliance in the First and Second World Wars, but also by deeper historical roots.”
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Shhhh…dearBlitz128. The Hitler-Stalin alliance is the dirty little secret which the left never liked to admit.
Maybe because some people might be saying: „Well, birds of a feather…“ Two years later, after the beginning of the Soviet-German War, one could have continued by saying „Once again, there is no honor among thieves“…
The UK shouldn’t have even been involved! WWI was using Bismark’s words “another damn fool thing in the Balkans”.
If France wanted to fight over Alsace-Lorraine the UK should have let them. They let France get hammered 40 years earlier in the Franco-Prussian War they should have let it happen again.
We had zero national interest getting involved!
It was a simple case of both sides thinking they got the better end of the deal. But neither Hitler nor Stalin got what they wanted. Hitler expected Britain and France to back down, and they didn’t. Stalin expected a long war of attrition in the West, which would allow the Red Army to clean up in a few years, and instead France fell quickly, allowing the Germans to focus on the Soviet Union, once they felt Britain was effectively neutralized.
Yes, Sir. It is my fault. I had forgotten that his slogan during the 1916 electoral campaign had been: „He kept us out of War“.
And you are right that there might have been a compromise peace in 1916. Sadly, Barbara Tuchman never mentioned the German peace proposal of that same year, or the peace initiative by British politician Lord Lansdowne - also from 1916.
In a better parallel universe, peace was concluded then. No victory, no reparations, no war-guilt clause, no Hitler, probably no World War Two.
Furthermore, millions of lives would have been saved, millions would not have been wounded, widowed or orphaned - and a lot of material value could have been saved, too.
And one hundred percent of fallen Americans 😞
Yes, you are right.
It’s the ludicrousness, this utter utopianism, of this utter disregard for human lives and happiness which has me baffled still today - after a lifetime as a professional historian ( albeit of medieval history).
Unfortunately, the French government was really hellbent on getting Alsace-Lorraine back, and President Poincaré, who had been elected in 1913, had campaigned on a „harsh stance“ towards Germany, i.e. regain the lost territory even at the risk of a major war.
Well, I personally would have offered the French Alsace-Lorraine in 1916 - under the condition that its autonomy be maintained even under French suzerainty, which it had been granted by Germany in 1911 (ensuring the official use of both languages as well as a certain degree of home rule); and its demilitarisation.
After all, every single French invasion of Germany from 1648 to Napoleon had been launched from Alsace. Thus, it was regarded as critical by the German government in 1871 to get this strategically important region back under control.
Agree!
🙂
And I think that this compromise would have satisfied the majority of the Alsatians and Northeastern Lorrainers, i.e. the people indigenous to the region, too.
The big “What If”?
The Kaiser’s father hadn’t died young of throat cancer?
The problem is that we relied heavily on The Royal Navy in the Atlantic, with the US expanding in the Pacific with Hawaii and The Philippines, even then, though at the time Japan was considered an “ally”, the thought was that the US and Japan were on a collision course.
The not-so-Great War and the American Civil War are the two most avoidable great tragedies in modern times. My grandfather lied about his age in 1917 to join the Army and fight the Hun. His mother went down to North Carolina and brought him home, much to the relief of the Kaiser and Prussian General Staff.
Yes. All of those cases in history..Emperor Frederic Ill., the father, definitely was a wise and humble man.
His son Kaiser Wilhelm II., was a more problematic personality, but in those days, his mental handicap was simply not known. It had been caused by his traumatic birth, during which he was deprived of oxygen for a while, and it also caused his paralyzed left arm, which was four inches shorter than the other (that’s why he liked to place a pair of kid gloves in the palm of his left hand and clasp the fingers around these gloves, making the arm look longer. Later he would often wear a long flowing cloak. In its folds, the withered arm could be easily kept out of sight).
On the other hand, Wilhelm was a great benefactor of the sciences, as well as technology. The Kiel Canal was built on his instigation, as was the Midland Canal. He also had a heart for the poor: numerous laws for their benefit were passed on his behalf.
Yes, they are.
And Glory to your great-grandmother who, maybe, saved her boy’s life by spilling the beans on his real age😄
Memory Eternal to both of them 😇😇
P.S.: Even Puck printed, mournfully, a beautiful image of his
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_III,_German_Emperor#/media/File:Friedrich_III_-_The_end_of_a_brave_life.jpg
P.S.: Even Puck printed, mournfully, a beautiful image of his
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_III,_German_Emperor#/media/File:Friedrich_III_-_The_end_of_a_brave_life.jpg
Invaded Finland, Poland Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia Hungary, Afghanistan, Chechnya and Ukraine twice, sure I am missing some, all in the past hundred years, but Russia needs a “ buffer zone”😎
Kaiser Wilhelm II was Queen Victoria’s favorite grandchild. Some people say she liked Willy better then her on son and heir Bertie. Bertie thought his nephew was essentially a brat!
Imperial Germany it wasn’t the dictatorship allied propaganda made it out to be. Yes ministers could overrule the parliament. They did often overrule or ignore (better way to say it - ignore!) the wishes of the Kaiser. That’s how they ended up in WWI! Another interesting thing the voting franchise was in some ways more widespread then in the UK. By UK standards and our standards it was different but not overly oppressive. Just different!
Wilhelm was also a sponsor and something of an expert on the archeology of ancient Greece. Sponsored numerous digs and participated in some.
Pooti Poot is smoking dope again
Yes, you are right. I know, for a long time it had been asserted (sadly, even by professional historians) that Imperial Germany was a semi-dictatorship or such.
While it is true that the Imperial government was (according to the 1871 constitution) responsible only to the Emperor, and was theoretically not in need of a parliamentary majority, though in practice it was more complicated.
And there was equal voting for all males of 25 years of age or older. Thus, after the elections of 1912, the social democrats had a parliamentary majority. But neither they nor the Emperor were able to counteract the general political climate of the time, which prevailed in Europe….
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