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The West Still Doesn’t Get Islam - We must be careful not to succumb to magical thinking.
Front Page Magazine ^ | 1 Jul, 2025 | Bruce Thornton

Posted on 07/01/2025 4:38:37 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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1 posted on 07/01/2025 4:38:37 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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A cease fire agreement with the mullahs is worthless. The Iranian people will have to overthrow the mullahs or the terrorist attacks will not stop.


2 posted on 07/01/2025 4:38:50 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Plenty of us do get Islam.


3 posted on 07/01/2025 4:41:44 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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It’s temporary. They will start up again. The mullahs always want a ceasefire when they are loosing or defeated. They show no mercy or flexibility in victory., historically. There can’t be peace in the Middle East until Iran theocratic government is gone. Sadly, I doubt it’s going anywhere.


4 posted on 07/01/2025 4:43:35 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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When Reagan countered Iran, Islam was an external enemy. Now it is an internal one. Bush embraced Islam after 9/11, a fatal error. We’ve had a Muslim president, who brought in millions of them through 3 terms. We have Muslims in Congress..and one about to control put largest city. It is an existential threat to this nation, yet we are still asleep.


5 posted on 07/01/2025 4:52:55 AM PDT by montag813
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As secular humanism replaces Christianity in the West, ignorance of the goal of Islam has grown. Islam is a patriarchal set of rules intended to keep order in a polygamist society by blaming women for male sexual aggression. It’s incompatible with feminism, but stupid is what stupid does.


6 posted on 07/01/2025 5:01:24 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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I’ve been warning people since 1971. That’s when I first went to work in the ME.


7 posted on 07/01/2025 5:03:15 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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“Getting Islam” is like getting cancer.
Only much worse.


8 posted on 07/01/2025 5:12:43 AM PDT by Da Coyote (H)
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Since 9-11-2001, Islam’s advances worldwide have been unprecedented in their history. Civilization suffers.


9 posted on 07/01/2025 5:13:11 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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Islam is not a religion. The sooner people accept that, the better off we’ll be. It has no place in western society, and should be driven out.


10 posted on 07/01/2025 5:21:06 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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Islam is a terrorist organization. What part of history and headlines don't western nations understand? Islam's followers (Muslims) believe they please God by forcing submission to so-called infidels through the sword, torture and imprisonment. Adherents to Islam should not be allowed in any civilized nation. Taqiyya has been used since Islam's inception to deceive - it seems to be working well on ignorant westerners/leaders.

Lord knows we need the emergence of Charles Martel and El Cid figures. Western nations ignoring that Islam is at war with all non-Muslims - will not have a good end. God help us!

11 posted on 07/01/2025 5:28:35 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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Trump’s call for a ceasefire is incomprehensible to me. It’s only going to allow the mullahs and the remnant IRGC to brutalize even potential internal opposition. It will strengthen their grip on the Iranian people. That is going backwards. We should have been giving the people weapons.


12 posted on 07/01/2025 5:40:25 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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“You shall know them by their fruit.”

What I see of Islam is all I need to know.


13 posted on 07/01/2025 5:41:39 AM PDT by nagant
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Good advice. The timeless warnings from Bernard Lewis still hold. Islam is a cancer with no place in the modern world.


14 posted on 07/01/2025 5:45:50 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative. )
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“The West Still Doesn’t Get Islam - We must be careful not to succumb to magical thinking.”

Just like the guy running for mayor of NYC. All the Lame Street Media ever talks about is his Socialism views. They never point out he is a Muslim that undoubtedly wants to destroy both Israel and the US in order to establish their long sought after on world Caliphate under Sharia L>aw.


15 posted on 07/01/2025 6:04:23 AM PDT by antidemoncrat (In a way ge is right as)
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cannot understand or take seriously the outsized role of Islam in Muslim cultures and politics. This failure of imagination has been a geopolitical mistake. For as Bernard Lewis explains, “In most Islamic countries, religion remains a major political factor, for most Muslim countries are still profoundly Muslim

ABSURD! It's not a "failure of imagination"; it's a failure of basic education. Islam is a THEOCRACY. Too many westerners do not understand this. For most Muslims, it is not a hobby on Sunday before brunch. They live the "faith". It is built to dominate politically! It has no place in western society, but we blithely accept it as though they are harmless Sihks or some sort of misguided little cult. The calls to prayer will be heard in all neighborhoods one day, at the rate we are going.

16 posted on 07/01/2025 6:10:17 AM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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If the U.S. were to become a Muslim country, it would represent a rejection of the principles of reason, individualism, and limited government. Such a shift would likely result in the loss of individual rights, the suppression of free thought, and the subjugation of individuals to religious authority, ultimately leading to a less free and less prosperous society


17 posted on 07/01/2025 6:15:14 AM PDT by mjp (pro-freedom & pro-wealth $)
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Moreover, as highly as we may think of Trump’s calls for peace and reconciliation, the mullahs and other devout Muslim jihadists see it not as magnanimity and respect for life, but as the infidels’ weakness and spiritual poverty that for centuries allowed Islam to dominate much of the Western world. Any breathing space bestowed on the mullahs will be exploited and used to further its still potent traditional Islamic global ambitions.


This!


18 posted on 07/01/2025 6:37:49 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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The Welsh actor John Rhys Davies told a story about him being a boy in Egypt with his father who was a diplomat. They were looking out at the Nile when a barge passed by full of people in chains. His father said the Cold War isn’t the greatest threat to civilization. That is. The barge was full of slaves on their way to Muslim owners. He said Islam is the greatest threat to the world.


19 posted on 07/01/2025 7:14:14 AM PDT by freefdny
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The translations of the Holy Quran being sold to non Muslims have been altered to make Islam look like a religion of peace.

Read a true translation and you will see this has little to do with politics.

In our world what we call terrorism, in their world is just Muslims doing as the Holy Koran commands them.

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/16955

This is a link to a free book on Gutenberg.org, three translations by 3 Imams of the Holy Quran side by side.

20 posted on 07/01/2025 7:15:54 AM PDT by Mogger ( 7th generation Vermonter, refugee in New Hampshire hoping NH remains sane.)
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