What Trump’s Critics Still Don’t Understand About Iran

American Greatness ^ | 22 Jun, 2025 | Roger Kimball

[PGR88]

Conclusion: you can’t read.

Oh, another smartass who thinks he/she's contributing to the debate

As to the conclusion that you can "bomb someone back into the community of nations"

Its clear the author was aiming at people like you.

[PIF]

Author omits the Shia 12ers who are the most fanatical and the worst of the lot. They believe it is their religious duty to bring all of humanity to Paradise. Hence, the desire to get and use nuclear weapons in the hope of triggering an all out nuclear war.

[odawg]

“As to the conclusion that you can “bomb someone back into the community of nations”

Its clear the author was aiming at people like you.”

Wow! I was only being sarcastic when I said you can’t read [comprehension] but you can’t.

The author does not conclude it can; he asks “whether” it can.

And he certainly must not have been aiming at people like you.

[JesusIsLord]

When Christians and Jews (and Buddhists, Sikhs, etc.) commit murder it is in contravention to the teachings of their religions. When Muslims commit murder it is in compliance with fundamental teachings of theirs.

I've posted many times, Islam is a terrorist organization. A 1400+ year history of murder, torture and enslavements and daily headlines showing Muslim autocracies prove the point. Why Western/Christian nations don't outlaw this demonic terroristic practice is beyond me. Ignorance, stupidity and leaders/politicians being paid off by Islamists will be the death of us. All who practice Islam are either terrorist or supporters of a terrorist system. The Crusades had the right idea.

[Tell It Right]

When the history of US military intervention, particularly in the M.E., over the last 60 years tells us the exact opposite.

I respectfully disagree. It's only when there are no clear objectives for war in the ME that they last forever. Afghanistan and Iraq had Congress declare war (good) before we went in, but Bush defined the objectives as unwinnable like trying to capture fog (win over hearts and minds, we'll be fighting the war on terror all our lives, etc).

Those should not be confused with last night's strike on Iran, or TRUMP 45's strikes on ISIS in Syria, or Obama's drone strikes in Pakistan, Yeman, and Somalia. None of those resulted in a years long war. To be honest, I'm against those strikes (except for last night's, which IMHO is a clear use of the 1973 War Powers Act's elimination of an imminent threat to the U.S.), but I'd be lying if my argument against those strikes is that they put is in another years long war.

[Vaduz]

What Trump’s Critics Still Don’t Understand About Iran.

Indeed it isn’t only their hate for America why they want such a weapon on target would be western Europe Canada and a few others.
If they did fires one off many paranoid countries would fire off too.

[Turbo Pig]

Islam is unlike other religions

That islam is NOT a religion is what most westerners fail to understand. It is a complete ideology, with military and political components, as well as a religious component. The "religion" is a beard that hides the other two, until it is too late for the unbeliever to do anything.

[cuz1961]

Oh, another smartass who thinks he/she’s contributing to the debate

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projection on your part.

better go grab a narrative control cubicle doughnut before they are all gone.

;-)

[Rummyfan]

Who, in fact, speaks for Islam? Who gets to say what it is and isn’t?

Moderate muslims (if that's not a paradox) fear radical muslims more than we do. Any muslim who comes out as moderate makes themselves a target of the radicals.

[Red6]

In short, Islam defines and organizes all aspects of a society.

It defines peoples sexuality, dress, education, the law, food, and language.

Worse yet, liberal (in a classical meaning) Western society is a threat to the Islamic power structures. Where is an Islamic based judge (Mufti) in a secular society? Where is a madrasa, an Ayatollah, an Imam? Western society organized around a democratic process, ideas of human rights and a free market, threatens those in positions of power in that society.

In the Islamic world you never had some of the Western philosophical movements. These people were exposed to these ideas once they began mingling with Westerners or through the arts and media.

Where was an “enlightenment” era in the Islamic world? No such thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment

Worse yet, and now I am becoming highly speculative:

Islam is based on the teachings of one man in reality, Mohamed. This man was a violent, pedophile, polygamist, murderer, liar, thief, slave trading, adulterating illiterate.

What sort of religion do you think such a man invents?

Of course, one that allows, slavery, polygamy, pedophilia, lying... If you doubt, I can show in the Quran the verses which allow for each of these.

What is Islam really? Islam is no more than had David Koresh and the Branch Divinians grown to 1.3 billion members and spread across the planet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Koresh

David Koresh and Mohamed are basically the same thing. You have a guy that declares himself a prophet, copies parts of Christianity and Judaism, adds his own ideas, all benefiting him of course.

The only difference is, because Islam is followed by 1.3 billion people, you have entire nations declare themselves “Islamic Republics,” we give this group a lot of respect: Iran, Pakistan, Mauritania (declared and in name, but basically ALL nations with a majority Muslim population are such): https://www.welt-atlas.de/map_of_islamic_countries_10-1046

If I started a religion (The Holy Red6) and taught the same sort of things Islam instructs and merely change the words around a little bit, most Western nations would use their law enforcement and intel service to come after me, some would outright make my religion illegal (declare it a criminal organization). The ONLY reason why Islam is tolerated is because of it's mass in people, expanse of land, resources controlled, votes even in Western nations, ability to cause civil unrest or even resort to violence, nuclear capability (Pakistan).

Of course we need to judge people individually (many Muslims are good people), but as a religion, Islam deserves no respect because it's basically no more than a plagiarized version of Christianity and Judaism which has been perverted by a self declared prophet.

[Turbo Pig]

Of course we need to judge people individually (many Muslims are good people)

There's the rub, my good man. Those "good people" are just one fiery Friday evening sermon at the local mosque from deciding that they need to live by the tenants of their "religion" and going full jihad on their unbelieving neighbors.