Posted on 06/21/2025 12:51:04 PM PDT by RandFan
I guess Air Baghdad them
Of course eventually it’ll be poor Iran
It’s complicated
Iran is fairly isolated and weakened but not out
I likely would kill Khameni he seems obstinate
Israel can do this themselves not sure what’s holding them up
Btw I’m no expert
Yes I agree indig upheaval unlike but when it happens it’s often a surprise like Romania
This comment may be a bit off the subject, but I am guessing everyone is talking about possession of WMD. However, possession was irrelevant to invading Iraq. The ceasefire ended, and the war begun in 1991 was resumed in 2003, because Hussein behaved in material breach of international obligations as reaffirmed with Resolution 1441. Nowhere in Congressional resolutions of 1991, 1998 and 2002, or UN Resolutions 678, 687 and 1441 can one see possession of stockpiles of WMD as reasons for confronting him with military action. Emerging behavior in terms of threats, evasion, intimidation, and continuing past actions, not possession, was always the key. He was to unconditionally accept destruction or removal of all inventories and programs for WMD and for all missiles over 150-kilometre range. He was enjoined from committing, supporting, or providing safe haven for international terrorism.
The Security Council approved Resolution 687, incorporated 678 and 19 previous resolutions without amendment, and offered Hussein a conditional, unilateral ceasefire in 1991. The resolution’s key words were to guarantee, reaffirm, accept, submit, declare, yield, forgo, agree, inform, comply, and cooperate. None of these resolutions were cobbled together like a middle schooler’s term paper. Diplomats and politicians laboriously parsed each phrase for clear focus on actions instead of possessions; behaviors, not stockpiles.
Netanyahu has been ranting about Iran being on the verge of getting a nuclear weapon for 30 years.
Did he launch this war to shore up his sagging approval rating in hopes he'd drag us into it?
That has put Trump in a very difficult position.
We got bad intel because our politicized intel agencies tell the President what he wants to hear.
A few years before, the intel agencies told Clinton Iraq was not a threat. After 9/11, they told Bush it was.
And they weren't lying: what they were concealing was that they didn't know, just like they didn't put the pieces together before 9/11 or before the collapse of the Soviet Union.
The intel agencies were gutted after the Dem media coup against Nixon and the Church Committee hearings afterwards. Before that they had a clear mandate to focus on Communist threats both abroad and at home. Afterwards they learned that minding the political interests of the powers that be, especially the domestic threat and corruption of the Dem's leftism, was the key to a long and prosperous career.
We have good sigint regarding immanent military threats. We have virtually non-existent humint because of leaks and moles and virtually no capability to track slow-moving long-term clandestine threats.
You’ve copied a lot of Freepers Mike and took the time to write that post so deserve a reply..
What I will say is at least GWB went to Congress .Trump may not even bother doing this. Which makes it even worse in my eyes.
Netanyahu has been claiming Iran has been on the verge of getting nukes for that long.
I have no problem with Israel going to war against Iran. But, that's its decision and we shouldn't be dragged into it.
There was no good reason to go into Iraq for a second time.
Syria's Chemical Weapons Came From Saddam's Iraq
Pentagon announces 500 tons of Uranium shipped from Iraq to Canada
He's like the boy that cries wolf.
What Israel has been saying for 30 years is somewhat irrelevant to the reality of an extensive Iranian nuclear program which is not even a secret at this point.
This is meaningless. Some of us still wonder if the U.S. was on the wrong side in 1991.
The mere thought of sending several hundred thousand U.S. troops to some dump in the Middle East to defend one royal family (Saudi Arabia) and restore another one to their throne (Kuwait) would have been enough to make George Washington vomit.
“And what is that?”
Really? Is something so simple it requires a detailed explanation?
They have sworn our destruction, for one. Within a year or two they would have a missile that could deliver over that distance. They could put bombs on ships and put them in any port in the world, to include a US port or two.
They would also be in an unassailable position to close the Persian Gulf, Red Sea/Suez AND the Bosphorus for whatever weirdo reason those Jihadis can come up with. They have missiles to reach those targets NOW.
When do the B-2 bombers head off to bomb Ottawa?
At least some of us who were fooled the first time have enough pattern recognition to learn from our mistake.
Iran has built their own Cheyenne Mountain, and it won't be destroyed by air attack.
https://www.iflscience.com/americas-cheyenne-mountain-complex-can-withstand-a-30-megaton-nuclear-bomb-73393
But when the bombing attack fails, Team Israel is going to say we must attack on the ground.
That is as stupid as saying the climate change propagandists have been wrong for 30 years and man is still causing the plane to warm.
You're ridiculous.
“That’s kind of the problem with all of the isolationists you want your little ideological dream world to govern everything meanwhile there’s a real world out there and it’s not friendly.”
Easy for you to shoot your big mouth off; anonymously hiding on the internet. I guarantee you won’t put your own fundament on the line. Yep, easy to talk big when your butt isn’t at risk. It’s easy to spend the lives of others.
I think he means BOLD face lies. Like when he calls cavalry “Calvary”.
“What Israel has been saying for 30 years is somewhat irrelevant to the reality of an extensive Iranian nuclear program”
This is not, and never has been about “supporting Israel”.
This is about a real, legitimate US interest in ensuring Iran doesn’t get the bomb. Without regard to what Israel does, or doesn’t do.
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