Posted on 06/21/2025 12:51:04 PM PDT by RandFan
Blowing up the Ayatollah doesn’t make the nuclear program go away.
Any more than killing the top military leaders have made the missiles stop.
There aren’t any good military options here.
Even a nuclear strike likely would not take out the under-the-mountain nuclear sites. The US military is majorly deteriorated compared to 2003, and Iran has 4x the population of Iraq back then.
And frankly, the threats of Regime change just incentivizes the mullahs to get atomic weapons for Regime defence, in addition to maybe some future jihad apocalyptic suicide attack.
Pray for President Trump !
Dont know. He was at the WH so if it was true, I would think Trump wouldn’t let him back if hadn’t stopped drinking.
My point, was it doesn’t really affect his opinion on Iran. Lots of people have the same opinion and drinking isn’t part of their equation.
1) Trump has a lot less trust in the deep state's "intel" than Bush did. Trump won't act on it unless he's 100% sure.
2) Trump has a habit of using bluster to work Art of the Deal, unlike Bush. Once Bush started the bluster it was practically given that we were going to war. With Trump it's part of his haggling and doesn't necessarily mean we're going to strike Iran (though we still might do it).
3) If we do strike Iran, Trump 45 has shown that it can be done without boots on the ground for 20 years. Look at the strikes in Syria when the anti-Trumpers said that Trump was trying to start another Iraq slog fest or start WW3 with Russia. Those strikes were quickly implemented and over before CNN could say that Obama deserves credit. So even if we do wind up striking Iran we can expect it to be like Trump 45's behavior, not Bush 43's behavior.
Yes
Ridiculous. Komeini was offered peace in exchange for ceasing his atomic bomb program. Why hasn’t he accepted?
Thanks. That was going to me my son’s war, because he was a Marine Corps rifleman first and was posted to presidential security forces along the way. I wanted to see if the use of armed force made sense.
THAT’S why I know the US and Israel are winning.
Yesterday I think. I guess his argument didn’t resonate with Trump as our B2’s just hit Fordow 😉
The US and Great Britian established the UN in 1945, so we had a special reason to accept the obligation. Except for Korea, I can’t think of another incident where the UN Security Council used armed force in such a forthright manner.
“We have ways to ascertain these truths number one...”
I disagree. We had excellent signals intelligence but almost no human intel in Iraq at the time.
So, you made my point. We really didn’t know but went in anyway.
Time will tell. I’m not in favor of this but it may work out. These things always do, right?
What does winning look like to you?
True but drinking does impair judgement.
He’s completely wrong on Iran.
The US (Carter) created the mess and other Democrat administrations enabled it from Zero giving them $1.7B in cash, Zero loosening the trade sanctions where they made hundreds of billions. Hellary loosening sanctions that allowed them uranium purchases. That regime through their proxies has killed hundreds of American servicemen, civilians and others. 80% of US casualties in Iraq were from IEDs manufactured in Iran.
The regime has to go as long as a 12er Shia regime is in control they will continue to try for nuclear weapons. Why? In their religious thinking they need to trigger an armageddon in order to bring their messiah - the Mahdi.
You’re absolutely right an underling never tells the dictator the truth. It’s dangerous to disappoint the big shot. People always assured Hitler and Stalin things were going well.
“So, you made my point. We really didn’t know but went in anyway.”
No. We KNEW they had chemical weapons - which are also WMD. We BELIEVED - truly believed - they were making progress towards nukes.
AND...we had been in a low-grade war for 10 years. Being shot at and bombing them. For years. While they supported terrorism and terrorist attacks.
We had ample reason to go in.
AND IT WORKED! They have acted as a silent ally for us for years now. They have cooperated with Israel against Iran.
Iran is isolated. That wasn’t true in 2002.
Well, we’ll soon find out who is and has been in this country over the years via illegal immigration, bullsh*t immigration status, family reunification, etc.
Patterson, NJ: Paterson mayor calls NJ city ‘capital of Palestine’ in Ramadan kickoff remarks
Dearborn, Mich: filmed in 2016 and has only gotten worse. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w5oLoW9jZJc
Hamtramck, Mich: https://www.thehamtramckreview.com/residents-complain-that-call-to-prayer-is-too-loud/
Radical Muslim running for Mayor in NYC: According to the Council on American-Islamic Relations, more than 350,000 of New York’s roughly one million Muslims
Am I fear monger? NOPE.
Am I telling anyone to be scared? Should be a little. We have ZERO idea who is in this country and who Biden let in.
Minneapolis, according to the FBI, was the #1 terror recruiting locations in the U.S. https://www.foxnews.com/us/how-rep-ilhan-omars-minnesota-district-became-the-terrorist-recruitment-capital-of-the-us-officials-highly-concerned
Now we have over 100k, unvetted, uneducated Afghans. The uneducated are easily radicalized are ripe for convincing to blow themselves up. Especially since most Afghans suppprt sharia
Jane Doe - Terror Playbook: Sleeper Cells, Biological Weapons and Invisible Bombs
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ot6uWij6z70
Afghan Panel - Christian Persecution in Syria, Homeland Attacks and How to Prepare
https://m.youtube.com/watchv=qxGOzQC0nWU&source_ve_path=MjM4NTE&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fshawnryanshow.com%2F
https://americanactionnews.com/featured/2016/06/07/how-terrorists-are-exploiting-our-broken-border/
https://clarionproject.org/2018/01/31/exclusive-fbi-confirms-jihadi-training-camps-america/
We are experiencing HIRAJ and have been since Bush started welcoming Somalia
As a supporter of Pres Trump I thought it was very unwise to seek support from Muslims in Michigan. They’re playing a game. Pretty soon, as their numbers continue to grow, Michigan will have a Muslim Governor. Just a matter of time as Hiraj tells them to be patient and take over via numbers rather than violence. The violence will come later. After they’re running things.
No. He is a drunk idiot. What's your excuse?
This post did not age well.
Ya, it worked great.
Uh, we “believed” they were making progress?! I used to “believe” in the Easter Bunny but facts dispelled my silly fantasies.
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