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To: DIRTYSECRET

Nation building is at one extreme. Isolationism is at the other extreme. Something that falls somewhere in the middle will usually make the most sense.

The knee jerk reaction of Rand Paul calling this a “forever war” was idiotic. Apparently, he will automatically say that in any situation where using military force is being considered. Nation building in Iran probably would turn into a forever war (or an ultimate defeat).

Lindsey Graham is an example of the other extreme.


14 posted on 06/21/2025 7:39:25 AM PDT by lasereye
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To: lasereye

**Lindsey Graham is an example of the other extreme.**
Churchill gave repeated warnings about Hitler. It had to get really bad before anyone listened. Is Linda Churchill? Wannabe perhaps. Still the problem will not go away and even if dealt with effectively it’s just fixed until the next problem comes up.

“Looking for answers that troubled him so.”
-Jimmy Buffet-He Went to Paris.


16 posted on 06/21/2025 7:46:47 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: lasereye
Agree.

We had some success with nation building in Europe and Japan, but those were exceptions. Our attempts in Viet Nam, Afghanistan, and Iraq should be clear warnings that we don't need to get involved in most of the world's troubles.

Looks like Israel is capable of taking care of Iran.

19 posted on 06/21/2025 7:57:10 AM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: lasereye

Yeah how come we need boots on the ground? Can’t we just bomb until there is nothing left. We don’t want regime change we will just make sure you never have anything nice. No bridges, oil fields, farms, schools, factories everything. What they going to do hate us more? We will make you hurt bad but you’ll never see us. No more Iranian civilization just rubble and misery


28 posted on 06/21/2025 8:28:46 AM PDT by datricker (Go Trump/Vance!)
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To: lasereye

Yeah how come we need boots on the ground? Can’t we just bomb until there is nothing left. We don’t want regime change we will just make sure you never have anything nice. No bridges, oil fields, farms, schools, factories everything. What they going to do hate us more? We will make you hurt bad but you’ll never see us. No more Iranian civilization just rubble and misery


29 posted on 06/21/2025 8:28:47 AM PDT by datricker (Go Trump/Vance!)
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