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·Intro
0:00·[Music]
0:10·[Music]
0:12·etoa
0:13·is archaeologically speaking just a
0:17·fascinating puzzle a very large Town
0:21·larger than the modern day town that is
0:26·invisible it's a major concentration of
0:30·human population in a time in a place
0:33·where nobody expected
·Site Description
0:38·that previously archaeologists
0:42·classified sites according to a variety
0:44·of sorts so you can have a temporary
0:46·campsite a village a town a city
0:50·megasites are is a new category uh that
0:54·are very
0:56·large but do not seem to have the
0:59·characteristics of a full-fledged City
1:01·and do not seem to be on the road to
1:04·becoming a city and so our site is one
1:07·of
1:09·those Etso is one town of quite a few
1:15·towns in what was called
1:18·Kira and it's in the account of the
1:21·onati Expedition we have this one set of
1:26·observations made in
1:28·16001
1:30·by the soldiers that onate brought with
1:33·him who literally counted the houses in
1:37·the
1:38·community they sent out a scouting
1:40·Expedition men on Horseback who were
1:43·gone all
1:44·day and who came back and said well it
1:48·just continues on there is another town
1:52·that starts about 5 miles up River from
1:54·one we're working on and it goes for
1:56·another five miles is what it looks like
1:59·and to the east more really big
2:04·towns so I'm estimating 200,000 people
2:09·maybe uh be a reasonable
2:12·estimate larger than any other political
2:16·unit of its day in what's now the United
2:19·States by a lot not by a little by a
2:25·lot it is on both sides of the wall
2:30·river which flows out of the Flint Hills
2:34·and originally had Crystal Clear
2:36·permanent water and uh good hardwood
2:41·forest in the
2:43·bottomlands and a whole series of
2:46·Springs that issue from the bluff on
2:51·which we're we're currently digging it's
2:53·the right sort of
2:56·place so the Mayan cities are all on top
3:02·of or near a cave or
3:05·cenot that gives access to the
3:09·underworld our Bluff has a whole series
3:12·of
3:13·those including one that showed up in
3:17·the magnetometry readings you can see
3:21·there's a very long Channel Down Below
3:24·where we are That Feeds out somewhere on
3:28·the Edge at the base of the
3:31·bluff so water from the underworld is
3:35·what powers the Earth and we have it in
·Rock Art
3:40·Spades there is rock art and some of
3:43·it's quite unusual and some of it's form
3:46·that's widespread so the widespread form
3:49·is cupules on some large
3:52·Boulders that
3:54·probably interpolating from other places
3:57·where we know people did that uh for
3:59·fertility magic for women to guarantee
4:04·getting pregnant adjacent to that
4:06·there's some rock art that is like none
4:10·other that I've ever seen But I think we
4:13·have an idea of how to interpret it and
4:16·it has to do with movement of
4:20·water out of and back into the
4:23·underworld and so there are little
4:25·miniature depictions of caves that feed
4:29·into squares cut into the Rock and very
4:32·often a square is a depiction of this
4:34·world and then with a channel that leads
4:37·to in one really nice case to a big hole
4:41·in the rock where it disappears back
4:42·into the
4:44·underworld so this idea
4:47·of a cave that has water coming out of
4:50·it is especially sacred place it gives
4:53·you uh contact with the spirits of the
4:57·underworld so if it is a depiction of
5:02·this
5:03·cosmological
5:05·Motif that
5:07·is it's well known in meso
5:10·America it existed up here too and this
5:14·is clear evidence of
·History
5:18·it Spanish on their way here since 1601
5:23·encountered a group of people that they
5:25·ended up calling esan Shak and over the
5:29·course of events they managed to insult
5:31·them pretty
5:33·dramatically and when the Spaniards
5:35·decided to turn back and start heading
5:37·to New Mexico they got back to the first
5:41·part of the Town they' come to and the
5:43·esan shaks were lying in wait for them
5:46·and there was an afternoon long battle
5:50·and the Spaniards had cannons and the
5:52·natives said bows and arrows it was a
5:54·pretty uneven battle so it was a a first
5:58·major or organized battle in what is now
6:02·the United States and so it's of high
6:05·interest we are trying to figure out
6:09·well how big was the battlefield we
6:10·don't know that we discovered some iron
6:13·shot that tells us yes we know where the
6:15·battle took place we have yet to see any
6:18·of the arrow points that were shot by
6:21·the natives going the other way and I
6:24·really want to see those they will tell
6:26·us a
6:28·lot the site is huge we are digging you
6:32·know we've been there for several years
6:34·we're not up to 1% of the site area and
6:38·we're not anywhere near that I doubt
6:40·we're 1/10th of 1% of the site area so
6:44·there's going to be lots of different
6:46·things to
6:47·find and we just did not expect to hit
6:51·what we did right we our initial
6:55·information was a trash Mound which was
7:00·I thought was great we can get a really
7:03·nice sample of material
7:05·culture well we're getting a bit of
7:08·material culture but not very much and
7:11·then when I thought it was just an
7:13·activity
7:14·area we ended up with this mystery of
7:17·two layers of subsoil up on top of an
7:20·activity area which made no
7:23·sense and it's this when once I finally
7:26·realized as we were digging that
7:30·we're in a ceremonial
7:34·area that's what's going
7:37·on and so the thermal imaging that gave
7:41·us that big circle that's not too far
7:43·away right and this big vertical
7:48·post uh all of that goes together nicely
7:51·and what the magnetometry found down the
7:55·hill again this would be to the South
7:57·was a cluster of deeply buried roasting
8:01·pits of some sort so probably a food
8:05·preparation area there for it so
8:08·it's picture is emerging it's not not
8:11·what we expected at
8:13·all we have potery that was probably
8:16·made in eastern
8:18·Colorado we have a piece of pottery made
8:21·in North
8:23·Dakota stuff from the Gulf
8:26·Coast and what was coming out of the
8:28·ground this summer was repeatedly C
8:32·pottery from East
8:34·Texas so the pottery is fancy it's not
8:37·the usual run-of-the-mill plain
8:41·Pottery so uh we're getting quite a
8:45·quite a sample of people they were in
8:48·contact
8:49·[Music]
8:51·with we have found lots of special tools
8:54·that's one of the obvious things when
8:57·you look at the remains that come out of
8:59·the
9:00·ground I did an estimate based on a
9:03·large sample 83% of the chipstone tools
9:07·are for processing bison for killing
9:10·them and butchering them and preparing
9:13·jerky and so
9:15·on that's
9:18·extraordinary I think that's why the
9:19·sites were so big was that they were
9:21·hunting whole herds of Bison with
9:24·several thousand Hunters at a time going
9:28·out and Slaughter ing the whole
9:31·herd massive amounts of Bison hunting
9:36·and
9:37·processing and then they had lots of
9:40·friends come and visit them qua was at
9:44·the center of the supply of Bison
9:48·products there are bison rawh Hy Shields
9:52·all the way to the West Coast of Mexico
9:55·they're in the Colorado River in
9:58·Arizona there at the fall line in South
10:01·Carolina a whole room full of rawh hide
10:04·Shields and helmets and leather
10:08·armor Juan
10:10·Cabrio sailed up the and found two cow
10:14·horns on an island off the coast of
10:19·California bison it has to be there
10:22·weren't any cattle around so literally
10:25·Coast to
10:28·Coast
10:33·it's a big
10:35·complicated
10:37·story and there's there's so much to be
10:42·done it completely unravels most
10:46·people's understanding of what Native
10:49·societies were
10:52·like many more
10:54·people stable
10:57·population sophistic ated
11:01·people people like
11:03·[Music]
11:09·us

1 posted on 06/18/2025 9:53:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

Bump


3 posted on 06/19/2025 2:31:26 AM PDT by Fzob (“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential)
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To: SunkenCiv

Lost?
No no! Its right there!


4 posted on 06/19/2025 3:07:17 AM PDT by Adder (End fascism...defeat all Democrats.)
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To: SunkenCiv

BFL - this is is near my hometown so I want to learn more about what was all around me in my youth.


5 posted on 06/19/2025 4:14:11 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't. )
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To: SunkenCiv

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9 posted on 06/19/2025 6:18:53 AM PDT by wintertime ( )
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