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To: Wuli

The employee pays 100% of his social security taxes. The government hides this fact by having it appear that his employer picks up 50%. If people saw how much the government was actually stealing from them there would be massive outrage. Can’t have that now, can we?


63 posted on 06/12/2025 2:23:04 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: Uncle Sham

Exactly. The employer contribution is wages not paid to employee.
I have seen employers list this money in total compensation for salaried employees.


69 posted on 06/12/2025 2:44:37 PM PDT by Iceclimber58
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To: Uncle Sham

“The employee pays 100% of his social security taxes. The government hides this fact by having it appear that his employer picks up 50%.”

Not true. The employer does pay 50%.

How you figure they do not stems from a totally inaccurate understanding of the matter.

I imagine you are trying to say the employer does not pay their half of social security, the government does, because what the employer pays in FICA taxes is a business expense tax deduction - AS IS ALL EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION.

1. Your argument would imply the employer does not actually pay the salaries or any other form of employee compensation, because the employees salaries are also a business expense tax deduction. Nonsense.

2. Business expense tax deductions, just like individual itemized deductions are NOT one for one - expense tax deduction, dollar of tax reduced. No, that’s not it. They directly reduce the taxable portion of income, not directly the amount of the tax.

I think you are confused.


70 posted on 06/12/2025 2:44:41 PM PDT by Wuli (uire)
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To: Uncle Sham

> The employee pays 100% of his social security taxes. The government hides this fact by having it appear that his employer picks up 50%. <

Hmm… it’s a subtle thing. But it’s also a fair point. The employer allocates a pot of money for employees. Some of that pot goes to paying Social Security taxes, and so is not available to increase wages and benefits.


71 posted on 06/12/2025 2:47:35 PM PDT by Leaning Right (It's morning in America. Again. )
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