Posted on 05/29/2025 7:37:31 AM PDT by RandFan
"30% of those people who voted Conservative last year... have switched to Reform."
Nigel Farage’s Reform Party has taken away the “Johnsonian coalition” that delivered the Tories victory in 2019, says polling expert Sir John Curtice.
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18% average in the opinion polls for the Tories.
Sir John Curtice (expert) says it's very hard to imagine any other outcome than Reform winning the amount of seats needed to form the next government.
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Now someone tell our GOP that they are on a death watch.
you think something similar could happen?
There is always hoping.
Think it is great thing to see a political party recast themselves under new leadership without the old leadership even being aware.
Honestly, think the democratic party could be something else next week and we would still know where everyone stood no matter how much “under new branding” the media would throw at the problem.
All that MAGA has to do is clearly draw parallels between what Tories did and RINOs. Basically, say one thing and do another.
Keep pounding at that every day.
The GOP can survive, but only if it is purged of the liars.
“Expert: FARAGE Has killed off the Conservative Party”
WRONG - The ‘Conservative’ Party killed off the “Conservative Party”. Same nearly happened here, but Trump stopped that effort in its tracks.
We discussed this before. The traitors are still there lurking and waiting their turn. Sen. Rand Paul confirms this and says many neocons are on the staff of GOP Congressmen and senators
if Vance does not win the nomination in a few years it’s over
That would be awesome. But I would not bet on it. In the UK’s parliamentary system, majority rules. So I sure can see Labour and the withered Tories allying to form a majority in the next government.
Sorry for the gentle pessimism. But I think Reform is gonna get the Charlie Brown treatment.
Dob5 stick a fork in the UK’s unitary just yet.
Their Deep State is still in control.
Or did folks forget about those 9 Councils that had their elections “postponed”?
Don’t stick a fork in the UK’s uniparty just yet...
The Conservative Party killed itself off when it ditched Enoch Powell. Thatcher is the only reason they stayed around.
The UK Conservative Party has been terminally ill since thee early 1990s.
The GOP has the same disease. The sooner it finally dies, the better.
Sir John addresses this in the youtube they’re (Reform) too far ahead I think he said on a third of votes
All political parties should fear a quick and immanent death of the current party, party loyalists just moving on to the thing that they have a better understanding of, Farage for example is clear and speaks like a human, and seems to keep a place for Scotland and Wales communists to have a change of heart. All parties across the spectrum would benefit if they inspired better choices and fight for better solutions.
But once in power will Farage have the guts to do what needs to be done? There isn’t any evidence that he does. Reform In Name Only, most likely.
Only in a parliamentary system. Our two party system is baked in, both the money and the power are behind that system for keeps.
Any of the 20 guys and gals who could win 2028 will have a much different debate ahead of them after 2016-2024 because of change of MAGA and Trump. Heck the party changed epicly when the tea party vets took over in most of the states.
The UK does not have “national” elections in the sense that voters do NOT directly vote for Prime Minister.
This means that local House of Commons elections determine the outcome.
Reform can receive millions upon millions of votes but never gain significant power because there will be “strategic” voting in the local elections which freeze out Reform candidates.
The globalists have structured the elections so that the will of the plurality is displaced by the will of the elites.
We see that in most of all the Euroweenie elections on the continent.
A “two-party” system may be flawed but at least it allows for the will of a “majority” to be expressed.
The 2024 presidential election was a TRIUMPH for the will of the majority.
But sadly that same will was not reflected in the ninety per cent of counties that Trump won with a working and functioning House majority.
Folk on this forum mistakenly blame Trump for that abomination of a budget bill.
The overwhelmingly majority of those elected to congress reflect the Republican wing of the uniparty.
They could care less about Trump and the America First voters who elected him which is why they did not ride his “coattails”.
Republican candidates for the House cannot make a clear distinction between themselves and the Democrat candidates.
The reason being is there is really little distinction other than rhetoric as this abomination of a budget bill proves.
And the bill will only get worse when the snakes in the Senate make changes necessary to get it passed.
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