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To: Publius

Don't let the Brabanters hear you calling them Dutch!

Not Dutch nobility but from a particular location in Brabant, now Belgium - "Von" is descent, "Van" is birthplace.

35 posted on 05/25/2025 4:57:14 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)

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To: AnAmericanMother

Wagner’s opera “Lohengrin” is set in Brabant. It would appear that in the 10th Century it was part of the Holy Roman Empire.

36 posted on 05/25/2025 5:12:45 PM PDT by Publius

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