[Bruce Campbells Chin]

OK. Your 1st point is not applicable. How do things like not zeroing out benefits for illegals, reducing Medicaid payments, etc., help bring back industry to the U.S.? No one suggested that these initiatives are not positive or that they have anything to do with returning business to the USA either if enacted or not enacted.

Of course it is applicable. Those are the exact reason that conservatives are rebelling against this bill. My question remains - why doesn't this "big beautiful bill" get rid of those horrible programs, and keep the parts about bringing industry back to the US?

None of the rest of what you said is applicable to the point. It is easier to bring back industry to the US when we are not running massive deficits. That's what we should be doing. And that is exactly what these conservatives are advocating.

[JayGalt]

Please see Stephen Miller post explaining why this is not applicable. I posted it in the thread.

I understand that you feel strongly but unless we proceed logically with the possible, intentions are irrelevant.
This sentence for example makes no sense “It is easier to bring back industry to the US when we are not running massive deficits.” The two issues are isolated with no correlation.

Also since the deficit cannot be brought down with any cuts that would be possible your conclusion is circling chairs on the Titanic. IOW lets cry the sky is falling while doing nothing.

First step growth, all possible correction of waste & fraud next, and only after growth is occurring will the deficit reduce.