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To: RoosterRedux

As in what situation would one find that they had to argue with a digital device? Not being rude or conflicting, just visualizing this argument and wondering why at all? lol


31 posted on 05/24/2025 4:14:46 PM PDT by Openurmind (AI - An Illusion for Aptitude Intrusion to Alter Intellect. )
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To: Openurmind

ChatGPT-4o, Grok 3, and Claude 4 are conversational AI platforms. They’re built for dialogue—even argument. And unlike a contentious mother-in-law, they’ll actually admit when your reasoning is stronger.

Here’s an illustration:

Years ago, when I lived in NYC, I had a friend who loved Porsches (and bought one every few years). The dealer knew him well and would let him test-drive any new showroom model. I’d ride along sometimes.

He didn’t crawl down the avenue at 20 mph. He’d head upstate and push the car—really see what it could do.

That’s what I do with AI.

As I said earlier: Most people who claim AI can’t reason are just using it to confirm their belief that it can’t. They don’t challenge it, don’t argue with it, don’t engage it like a thinking partner. They treat it like a parlor trick—then complain it’s not Socrates.

When they test-drive it, they don’t push it to its limits. They putter down the avenue, then scoff at the performance.

If you want to see what AI can do, you have to push it. Argue with it. That’s where it gets interesting.


32 posted on 05/24/2025 4:33:38 PM PDT by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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To: Openurmind

If you want to understand what AI is, you have to use it—and not just casually. You have to push it to its limits. Engage it in complex conversations, challenge its assumptions, test its logic, and present it with real evidence. That’s when you start to see what it’s actually capable of.

Forming an opinion from a distance—without ever really using the tool—is like reviewing a novel you’ve never read or judging a car you’ve only seen parked. You miss its strengths, its quirks, and its boundaries.

A lot of critics talk about AI in the abstract: “It can’t think,” “It just parrots,” “It makes stuff up.” But when you press it with real reasoning, those critiques often fall apart. It doesn’t have beliefs—but it can follow logic. It doesn’t have emotions—but it can reflect nuance.

You wouldn’t dismiss a calculator (I know, you hate calculators) because it doesn’t understand numbers emotionally. You use it to get answers. Same with AI—it’s a tool, but a powerful one. You just have to learn how to drive it.

Yes, one day an AI system may destroy humanity. But that isn’t ChatGPT or Grok 3. That’s like refusing to use a PC because the Terminator is a digital machine.


33 posted on 05/24/2025 4:42:06 PM PDT by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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