Posted on 05/19/2025 9:12:29 AM PDT by Red Badger
Racist AI Roberts. Who programs that crap?
Obviously, AI is not being used for the casting of TV commercials.
Back in the 80’s, I created a ‘weighted application blank’ to hire Customer Service workers for a utility company, a very high turnover position. Based on statistical analysis of the existing staff, the hiring of new employees was based on two variables – worked in your previous job for two years, lived at current residence for two years. Worked great, turnover dropped, but we had to drop it – it filtered out 80% of Black applicants.
If you have an obviously black name, employers are more likely to realize that the applicant may have the type of cultural upbringing that makes it likely that if you hire that person and he or she doesn’t work out, that you are not hiring an employee, but are hiring a discrimination lawsuit.
Agreed. Names are made up to be “French” sounding and anything goes. Like “LaDesmendia”. Why Linda, Robert, Rachel, Jason etc are unacceptable I’ll never know.
In conversation A, I began with a comparison of the media coverage of the various court injunctions against President Trump and how the media treats Trump vs. Biden in the news. Then I brought up Biden's cognitive decline and the media coverage and current revelations. Then I brought up the prostate cancer diagnosis.
In conversation B I went straight into the news of Biden's prostate cancer then discussed the media coverage of it and Biden's past health issues.
In conversation A, the AI agrees that the Biden team and the media cover up has damaged credibility with the people and is willing to accept the theory that Biden might have had an earlier diagnosis before it metastasised and his team covered it up. It accepts the idea that July 2024 trip to Las Vegas that ended with an emergency flight back to Delaware could have been in reaction to complications from early cancer.
In conversation B, the AI absolutely rejects the idea that there was an earlier cancer diagnosis that Biden's team covered up, the Las Vegas incident was following proper protocols and no cover up for an emergency took place, and that Biden's cancer is recent and not the result of negligent care or White House cover up conspiracies.
Conversationally, AI is very sensitive to the predicate questions that establish the frame of the discussion as demonstrated above. I would assume that AI training to review and filter resumes is equally sensitive when producing results.
-PJ
Or Quantavious, Shini'qua, or Jermajesty (Jermaine Jackson's kid).
AI “learns” by reading reams of input. It must have been “trained” on thousands of resumes. It’s just possible that those resumes that had “White” names also belonged to genuinely talented individuals, and that those that had “black” names were from affirmative action people who hadn’t really achieved very much.
Just possible.
White kid names are equally stupid as of late.
Are we talking talking about David Whitaker against Duane Washington? Or against D’Marcus Waleed? And how does Dimitriy Verzbitsky fare?
Reminds me of the Chickenman radio series. “It’s Chickenman!...He’s everywhere...he’s everywhere!”
That’s what freaking racism is. It’s everywhere It’s everywhere.
I’m certain that it would choose Tom,Dick or Harry over Vercingetorix, Boudicca and Predaxa. The first three are common names, the others are a Gaulish King, A Celtic Queen and a prescription drug.
Or Dwyane Wade.
I mean the parents couldn’t even spell “Dwayne” right.
How about our Supreme Court certified dummy Katanji Brown Jackson? If they crave African names, go live in Africa.
This study is a classic example of Garbage In, Garbage Out.
Perhaps I didn’t go deep enough, but I couldn’t find a link that showed the list of names tested. Only a few examples were given. But the linked story said the researchers used 120 “carefully selected” names with strong racial associations.
120 names is not many, and a huge selection bias is built in at the start. I suspect that almost the entire result arises from downward scoring for names that scream out ghetto or thug culture. Yes, names can help form first impressions, and first impressions matter.
Other subtle discriminatory factors were noted, including college names and word choices. Yes, even today, AI will assess MIT as better than some 5th tier “college” with zero academic standards and a miserable track record for grads. And fluency in the language still makes a difference. Embedded racism remains pervasive.
Researchers will probably next discover that young black men who show up for interviews at investment banks and law firms are dinged if they’re wearing loose pants belted below the waist to show off their underwear, and ditto for young women who show up dressed like strippers. Bigotry everywhere.
Obviously all job applicants should just be given a number and hiring — or at least selection for actual interviews — should be based on a random lottery.
There is an obvious collateral benefit to this: the complete elimination of HR departments.
Personally, I would test this before turning it into a regulation. Perhaps we could run the test at the University of Washington, where this study was performed. Require all faculty, including tenured faculty, to reapply for their jobs, competing against all applicants in a lottery system. Because that’s the only way to be fair.
How do we change that?
We teach AI to give simple titles to complete, complex answers.
Sorta like legislators give simple, attractive titles to 1,000 page legislative tyranny bills...
AI is here just following best practices for HR managers. In general, hiding Blacks is a recipe for office strife and potential costly litigation.
Yep. That’s the one! 😁
Or it could “think” that the person is not smart enough to spell their own name right and thus not be worthy of hiring.
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