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To: ChicagoConservative27
A recent 12-year study published in the Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research tracked adults over 50 and found that those with low grip strength had a 45% higher risk of death.

I am assuming that this study controlled for sex - because otherwise the overwhelming majority of those adults over 50 years old with low grip strength will have been women.

Pound for pound of body weight, men have much stronger grips than women. So I would guess that women injury themselves far more frequently and severely in falls.

Now factor in the increased incidence of osteoporosis in women.

Thoughts, anyone?

Regards,

11 posted on 05/18/2025 9:55:30 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek
that women injury injure themselves

Sorry!

Concerning the claim that the probands with lower grip strength had a 45% higher risk of death - does than men: for all causes? Not just due to falls (where, I am assuming, grip strength can prevent falls or at least reduce their severity)?

Also: Isn't it an established fact that grip strength is the most difficult to increase through training (exercise)?

I can easily imagine an erstwhile "couch potato" doubling or even tripling the strength of, e.g., his legs or his arms - but of his grip?! Is that even possible?

Regards,

12 posted on 05/18/2025 10:00:39 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

I’ve seen studies like this, and they usually separate men and women. Peripheral circulation and nervous system goes first, and that leads to loss of grip strength. I don’t think it has any direct connection to falls, it means your body is failing. If you have chronic carido-respiratory disease exercise my improve QoL a bit and extend life slightly, but no silver bullet. If you do hard exercise your entire life, you will probably live longer with a higher QoL.


14 posted on 05/18/2025 10:12:38 AM PDT by LambSlave
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To: alexander_busek

“I am assuming that this study controlled for sex - “

That counts as exercise too! 😁


30 posted on 05/18/2025 11:46:44 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: alexander_busek

Greetings alexander_buseks!

Need to see the actual study.
Not sure if this is the study to which we are referring, but you can see from it a similar point and the level of scientific rigor we expect from this publication:
https://journals.lww.com/nsca-jscr/fulltext/2020/04000/mean_combined_relative_grip_strength_and_metabolic.16.aspx

In other words, people with no grip strength aren’t doing anything. This cannot be considered an earth-shattering revelation. However, it may provide some value in diagnostics and therapy. Have your patients squeeze the gadget and then say “Oh my...” If this could get them actually exercising...
oh well,
...never mind.


36 posted on 05/18/2025 1:10:23 PM PDT by BDParrish ("Do you see the CRJ)
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To: alexander_busek

Lumping together men and women would certainly destroy the
popular theory of ‘exercice, exercice’.
Women exercice much less than men because they are not in most physical professions. They do less strength exercice. They have no grip strength compared to men.
Yet they live much longer than men. Go figure...


37 posted on 05/18/2025 1:50:00 PM PDT by miniTAX
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