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To: grundle

Why did you post that?

Conquest and colonization is the history of our species. It’s perfectly normal.
Are you complaining Muslims do it better than Christians?


7 posted on 05/12/2025 1:01:01 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: Jim Noble

Very apologetic of you Jim.


17 posted on 05/12/2025 1:29:55 PM PDT by Z28.310 (does not comply well with others)
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To: Jim Noble
"Are you complaining Muslims do it better than Christians?"

You could probably count on one finger the number of times islam is associated with colonization. "Colonization" is almost always associated with western European countries, in popular media, despite the fact the muslims were doing it hundreds of years before many of those countries were nation states.

22 posted on 05/12/2025 1:38:38 PM PDT by Flag_This (They're lying.)
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To: Jim Noble

I understand where you are coming from but I don’t know if I fully agree with it. Conquest and colonization are not the same thing.

Conquest involves two somewhat comparable entities engaging in a battle and the invading force vanquishing the other to take their land/belongings/property/children/etc...

Colonization involves two incomparable entities where the taking of the land involves no or very little violence to achieve. The outcome is predetermined when the colonization begins.

When Germany invaded France in WWII...that was conquest.
When Europeans took over the new world and South Africa it was mainly colonization. Certainly there were battles here and there but they were almost never close. So much of the new world was newly depopulated from the plagues that spread through the land in the 16th and 17 centuries that there was not much resistance accept in the western plains.

If a new island popped up in the middle of the Atlantic and your family and friends moved there, you would be colonizing it. If there were primitive hunter gatherers existed on the landscape you would still be colonizing it but it would be closer to conquest. If there were modern people with technology, armaments, infrastructure, etc... and you took it from them....it would be conquest.

I think there is a moral difference between the 2. They are on 2 ends of the same spectrum.

I am not saying that one is universally right and the other universally wrong...but there is a difference.


27 posted on 05/12/2025 1:54:32 PM PDT by nitzy (I don’t trust good looking country singers or fat doctors.)
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To: Jim Noble
Why did you post that? Because the Left prootes Islam as peaceful?

Conquest and colonization is the history of our species. It’s perfectly normal. Are you complaining Muslims do it better than Christians?

New Testament Christianity did not militarily conquer countries, but its faith and culture enabled certain countries to defeat countries which sought to conquer them, by the grace of God.

47 posted on 05/12/2025 8:39:37 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: Jim Noble

I know that colonization is the history of our species. But the crazy, woke, radical left only complains when Christians or Jews do it. They give Muslims a pass.


48 posted on 05/13/2025 4:43:32 AM PDT by grundle
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