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1 posted on 05/11/2025 8:12:19 AM PDT by Red Badger
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How much legacy power is needed to fuel a fleet? Will solar, and wind provide it, or do we need Coal fired plants, NG fired plants, Dams, Nuclear power and a lot of it? I don’t don’t understand the point of all this, when the internal combustion engine is the best thing since sliced bread.

In short, get back to me when we have enough excess electrical power to drive personal vehicles for all, because it just doesn’t work without forcing the vast majority onto buses and into the big cities.


30 posted on 05/11/2025 9:19:04 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts
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And what would be the cost of the infrastructure needed to provide a few hundred thousand charging stations that can provide this voltage and this power?


31 posted on 05/11/2025 9:20:06 AM PDT by I want the USA back (America is once again GREAT! )
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Ask someone who drives a gasoline-powered car why they wouldn't want to get an electric one, and you're almost certain to hear this answer: they take way too long to charge.

That's one reason. Another is that charging stations are still few and far between unless you own a Tesla, and a third is that if the battery dies, it costs a fortune to replace it. An EV right now is a car to lease, not to own.

The only reason I'm considering an EV for my next car is Tesla's Full Self-Driving. The technology is fascinating, and when I'm ready for my next car in a couple of years, FSD should be far better than it is today, which is already damn good.
32 posted on 05/11/2025 9:21:58 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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I’m not sitting on top of a giant battery. I’m not parking a giant battery by my home. I’m not crossing my fingers in the cold weather hoping the giant battery starts up.


33 posted on 05/11/2025 9:26:14 AM PDT by CaptainK ("No matter how cynical you get, it is impossible to keep up” )
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Cool, we can use more of the coal and nat gas that powers the chargers faster now!


34 posted on 05/11/2025 9:29:43 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The road is a dangerous place man, you can die out here...or worse. -Johnny Paycheck, 1980, Reno, NV)
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I'm always skeptical when the CCP demonstrates a world-changing new technology.

While the article on BYD’s 5-minute EV charging presents a compelling case of innovation, there are good reasons to approach these claims with caution, especially given China’s track record with intellectual property theft, inflated technological claims, and tightly state-managed press access.

The demonstration was conducted under controlled conditions, using BYD’s own vehicles, chargers, and infrastructure, with no independent validation and only one Western media outlet invited. That lack of transparency raises red flags.

How BYD Could Have Staged the 5-Minute EV Charging Demo:

  1. Preconditioned Battery – Partially charged the battery beforehand to create the illusion of rapid charging.

  2. Fake Charge Readout – Manipulated the state-of-charge display to show inflated or misleading figures.

  3. Short Power Burst Only – Delivered a brief peak charge (e.g., 1,000 kW) without sustaining it, then showcased only the peak.

  4. Modified Test Vehicle – Used a special prototype or smaller battery not representative of production models.

  5. Controlled Charger Output – Faked or exaggerated charger performance without third-party measurement.

  6. Selective Data Presentation – Stopped the demo before charge tapering and thermal issues could occur.

  7. No Independent Verification – Allowed only friendly media with no technical oversight or raw data access.

  8. Range Inflation via Software – Tweaked algorithms to overstate range gained during charging.

In short, without third-party validation, this could easily be a staged PR event, not a verified technological breakthrough.
38 posted on 05/11/2025 9:53:26 AM PDT by RoosterRedux ("There's nothing so inert as a closed mind" )
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Weakening and dead batteries are my biggest pet leaves with today’s technology. That, and the fact that there is little one can do to fix them even if the battery is good.

Sorry, I still have lots of control over my gas powered vehicles, and there is not one gigantic item the failure of which will total them.


39 posted on 05/11/2025 9:59:02 AM PDT by MikeyB806
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Our new Chinese overloads are selling us the rope to hang our selves with.


42 posted on 05/11/2025 10:35:43 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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Thank you for referencing that article Red Badger.

"BYD's 5-Minute EV Fast Charging: We Tried It. It's A Game-Changer"


FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Given all the illegal aliens in California trying to stay cool this summer, fast charging EV batteries will only make California's poorly planned. overloaded power grid an even bigger problem.

With Its Power Grid On The Verge Of Failure, California Begs Residents To Change Their EV Charging Routines (6.23.21)

I understand that California now cannot find buyers for excess solar power, peak power availability possibly not same time as peak usage, insight welcome. Again, “one size fits all” elite desperate Democratic poor planning.

43 posted on 05/11/2025 10:54:51 AM PDT by Amendment10
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I think what is lost on EV geeks such as the author of this article is that many people just aren’t interested in owning a battery powered device. They don’t want a rolling smart phone loaded with complex nanny state gadgetry and the obsolescence that comes along with it. A lot of folks just want a simple driver’s car that can get them from point A to point B. I see very few if any advantages to an EV. Freedom of choice should be maintained.


45 posted on 05/11/2025 11:31:34 AM PDT by ten18
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4 gallons of gas has more energy then the entire battery pack of a electric Ford F-150.

4 gallons of gas.

You really want people messing with 1,000 volts? How about when you want to fix the ‘engine’ you need expensive gloves that cost hundreds and a meter that can take the voltage. You can take it to a local shop and be charged an expensive price anywhere from say a new set of tires to a new battery to being told the cost exceeds the value of the vehicle. Tesla building cars that are disposable. Elon Musk has the money but everyone else cannot buy a new vehicle. Electric cars just go hummm and are boring.

We have plenty of oil to make gasoline. No need for a fire hazard and once on fire something that is very hazardous to everyone who breathes in a whiff of the smoke that will liquefy your lungs to the batteries flying like missiles embedding into vehicles and homes and business’s and YOU to fires that keep reigniting for weeks afterward.

The link to the Australian MGUY video says that if a second and a third etc car shows up to be charged then the amount of time increases as the electricity is reduced for each vehicle charging.


53 posted on 05/11/2025 9:20:46 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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I have owned and driven no fewer than 8 vehicles that didn’t have a 250 ish mile total range none were over 300 with a full thank of petrol. Some were lucky to get to 200 in the city with the AC on.

69 F100
79 K5 Blazer
84 RX7
85 Jaguar XJ12 Vanden Plas
85 Jeep Wagoneer
86 Land Rover Defender (170mi range at best the worst of the group)
91 Blazer
97 Ford Explorer

Its irrelevant once you get to 5 min refuel times your bladder is then the limit. 250 miles at a real world average of 65mph is 3 hours 50 min in the seat.

At no time have I ever gotten better than 65 mph average moving speed let alone total average speed between any Texas city door to door even leaving at 3 am. Construction gets you then. On a recent trip to Biloxi my total avg speed excluding food stops was 62mph via Google MyTracks with analytical level stats on a rolling basis and total over multiple trip legs.

My current model 3 tests the limits of my bladder with it’s 375 mile range it gets a 15 min supercharge at 3 hour intervals to take it from 30% to 80% during which is just enough time to grab a BBQ sandwich or Cajun meat and three plate to go and a beer plus drain the main vein. Thats with 250kw supercharger rates , it would be four times faster at megawatt rates the V4 Tesla supercharger rates cover in its standard 1000 amps at 1000V there is no American can that can take those rates but the V4 was tested and got it’s cert for it. 500kw V4s are already being fielded for the Cybertruck and Tesla Semi sized packs.

BYD has impressive tech, those blade pack is the only one which can take the steel spike test. The Blade LFP pack won’t burn it’s internally suppressed and LFP via chemistry don’t have high flammable electrolytes.

Here is the actual live footage of the spike test it doesn’t exceed the temp needed to light paper let alone liquid electrolyte.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CSGESKhtZD0


54 posted on 05/12/2025 1:05:30 AM PDT by GenXPolymath
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Seems to me that would be a call better unanswered. I can think of a few extra hazards that would/could go with this.


59 posted on 05/12/2025 5:28:45 AM PDT by oldtech
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