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To: Libloather

Unfortunately, we in AZ (especially Phoenix) and NV are innocent victims of CA stupidity.
We do not have refineries on our own, but getting all out gas from California.
AZ has one of the lowest gas taxes, but our gas is quite expensive, all because it comes from CA.
Time to build a pipeline from TX!


11 posted on 05/03/2025 5:25:48 AM PDT by AZJeep (sane )
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To: AZJeep

“Unfortunately, we in AZ (especially Phoenix) and NV are innocent victims of CA stupidity.
We do not have refineries on our own, but getting all out gas from California.
AZ has one of the lowest gas taxes, but our gas is quite expensive, all because it comes from CA.
Time to build a pipeline from TX!”

We get some reprieve on that. I am also in Az and was in the industry for years. The Northern CALNEV line is terminated in Nevada and dependent on Ca. But the Southern line also comes from El Paso Texas through Tuscon to Phoenix. So we are not going to be completely cut off but it is going to cost more to transport from the Southern line to the Northern parts of the State if the CALNEV is shut down.

But the reality is we are already doing that now. I used to come to work and get on the phone to shop prices to see which rack and shipper I was going to order from for my next delivery. In the whole of it 50% of the time I ordered from Vegas and the other 50% of the time from Phoenix because the prices “delivered” were indeed competitive within five to ten cents.


13 posted on 05/03/2025 5:52:34 AM PDT by Openurmind
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One solution would be the construction of a tanker port and refinery on the Gulf of California in the Mexican state of Sonora. A pipeline into Arizona and Nevada could be constructed. The current Mexican President appears to be far more pragmatic than the leftist ideologues running Canada. As long as Trump is in the White House, there should be no problem getting the environmental clearances.
15 posted on 05/03/2025 6:09:24 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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