In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Q ~ Trust Trump's Plan ~ 05/01/2025 Vol.507, Q Day 2742, woodpusher wrote: woodpusher wrote: And what if there is no actual invasion or predatory incursion by another nation or government?
ransomnote: Why change the subject? The question bears analysis. President Trump has said we have been invaded. Watch members of Congress, Federal judges and Sheriffs break the law in a manner the United States has never seen before for clues.
woodpusher wrote: And what does invoking the Insurrection Act have to do with suspending habeas corpus?
Title 50 - War and National Defense
Chapter 3 - Alien Enemieshttps://law.justia.com/codes/us/title-50/chapter-3/sec-21/
50 U.S.C. § 21Sec. 21 - Restraint, regulation, and removal
Whenever there is a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated, attempted, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government, and the President makes public proclamation of the event, all natives, citizens, denizens, or subjects of the hostile nation or government, being of the age of fourteen years and upward, who shall be within the United States and not actually naturalized, shall be liable to be apprehended, restrained, secured, and removed as alien enemies. The President is authorized in any such event, by his proclamation thereof, or other public act, to direct the conduct to be observed on the part of the United States, toward the aliens who become so liable; the manner and degree of the restraint to which they shall be subject and in what cases, and upon what security their residence shall be permitted, and to provide for the removal of those who, not being permitted to reside within the United States, refuse or neglect to depart therefrom; and to establish any other regulations which are found necessary in the premises and for the public safety.
ransomnote wrote: You are citing a situation different from our current circumstances. There are a combination of unknown actors (e.g., Former head of El Salvador) foreign and domestic, who do not qualify as a nation or government in their own right, who sent troops here unofficially and without uniforms or other state level identification. The US doesn't lose the right to defend itself from treachery of this kind.
woodpusher wrote:
https://law.justia.com/codes/us/title-50/chapter-3/sec-22/
50 U.S.C. § 22§22. Time allowed to settle affairs and depart
When an alien who becomes liable as an enemy, in the manner prescribed in section 21 of this title, is not chargeable with actual hostility, or other crime against the public safety, he shall be allowed, for the recovery, disposal, and removal of his goods and effects, and for his departure, the full time which is or shall be stipulated by any treaty then in force between the United States and the hostile nation or government of which he is a native citizen, denizen, or subject; and where no such treaty exists, or is in force, the President may ascertain and declare such reasonable time as may be consistent with the public safety, and according to the dictates of humanity and national hospitality.
https://law.justia.com/codes/us/title-50/chapter-3/sec-23/
ransomnote wrote: This text does not apply to our situation - it builds on the circumstance of foreign nation or government acknowledging or acknowledged in some way as having sent/protected/paid these aliens, when in fact the current invasion employs the 'cover story' that they came here of their own volition and were coincidentally showered with accommodations, benefits and funding from foreign agents like Joe Biden, while at the same time Americans were denied the same benefits (e.g., Potato refused to help Americans with support following hurricanes, floods, fires and chemical explosions. Some of these invaders have social security numbers, disability for life etc.) The situation you describe ignores the infiltration of foreign government control in Congress leading to the cultivation of an unofficial army from numerous alien nations.
woodpusher wrote:
50 U.S.C. § 23§23. Jurisdiction of United States courts and judges
After any such proclamation has been made, the several courts of the United States, having criminal jurisdiction, and the several justices and judges of the courts of the United States, are authorized and it shall be their duty, upon complaint against any alien enemy resident and at large within such jurisdiction or district, to the danger of the public peace or safety, and contrary to the tenor or intent of such proclamation, or other regulations which the President may have established, to cause such alien to be duly apprehended and conveyed before such court, judge, or justice; and after a full examination and hearing on such complaint, and sufficient cause appearing, to order such alien to be removed out of the territory of the United States, or to give sureties for his good behavior, or to be otherwise restrained, conformably to the proclamation or regulations established as aforesaid, and to imprison, or otherwise secure such alien, until the order which may be so made shall be performed.
ransomnote wrote: So your response above pertains to an acknowledged government or nation sending an incursion (think Ukraine) force etc. and what we have is domestic traitors givng aid and comfort and working to conceal the importation of foreigners who are to serve as a 'coalition of the willing' for the Deep State's agenda. The Deep State is not a nation and has no flag. That does not mean we are helpless at their feet, unable to act because traitors went the 'unofficial, unflagged route' with infiltration.
I don't expect to know the exact measure by which the United States will assert its right to self defense, but I suspect it will be something like a combination of the Insurrection Act (without the participation of voting collaborators) and the Law of War.
Law of War Manual (2023 Update)
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