[Tell It Right]

On a somewhat related topic of which letters after your name is better, there's a spiritual reason I have a BS in computer science instead of masters or PhD. Back in my undergrad years, my math and CS instructors taught exactly zero of the leftist indoctrination nonsense. I heard that only in my liberal arts "core" courses. If a student tried to bring up that mess, my math or CS instructor would hush him/her up and say that everyone was there for the CS or math, not the political stuff or the debates on evolution vs creation, etc.

But by the time I wanted to go to grad school, even the CS dept had gotten leftist. My son says that the undergrad is still like I remember (except with the modern leftism in the liberal arts courses). I'm okay with being in the world, not of it. Meaning, if I'm in a position to possibly influence them, fine. But I don't want to pay to sit to be indoctrinated by them.

[9YearLurker]

Sounds about right.

It is scary, however, how far STEM has fallen at the college level. Your usual CS major probably starts by taking dumbed-down, remedial, algebra classes. Undergrad statistics classes mostly just describe what the discipline is about, rather than teaching the discipline.