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Wisconsin Supreme Court Race With National Implications Is Decided
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Posted on 04/01/2025 6:52:36 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET

On Tuesday night, at 9:43 pm ET, a little less than an hour after the polls closed in Wisconsin, liberal Judge Susan Crawford was announced the winner of the state's Supreme Court race. She was heavily backed by Democrats.

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To: joesbucks
It did. Musk was talking about how the Wisconsin Supreme Court would force a redistriting to give Democrats two more seats and retake the majority in the House.

That was the import that you missed by not following the details of this race.

-PJ

101 posted on 04/02/2025 12:15:43 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too

So it is important. And could, if what you’re believing will happen happens, have national implications. It could be a bellwether of future election cycles.


102 posted on 04/02/2025 2:15:06 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: DIRTYSECRET

The republicans have done nothing about getting cheated for 50 yrs or so. Why would we expect them to do anything now?


103 posted on 04/02/2025 2:19:31 PM PDT by Bullish (I've never seen such morons... Have you?)
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To: joesbucks
Actually, I don't believe it will happen. I think Republicans have enough delaying power in the state legislature to make it a very difficult task for Democrats to enable -- at least for the duration of the Trump administration.

I think that Musk made a big deal of it for turnout purposes only because the Democrats made a big deal out of it. Otherwise, with court challenges and procedural delays, any map will have to be in place before the filing deadlines for the election, which will be much earlier than the election itself.

First, the new justice won't get sworn in until August 1, 2025. That loses them three months right there.

Wisconsin will likely hold primaries in early August 2026, which means the filing deadline will be around June 1, 2026. This means that a new district map must be in place long before June 1 so that candidates can get organized and prepare their filing documents in the weeks (months?) before June 1.

This means that the Democrats will only have from August 1, 2025 to around March of 2026 to get the Republican legislature to draw up a new map for the governor to sign. I'd expect the rest of 2025 to be taken up by legal challenges before the legislature even begins to start on new maps.

If Republicans are smart, their first map ought to be such that the court rejects it and makes them start over.

As you can see, it was never practical to redistrict Wisconsin mid-decade just to gain two seats in the House of Representatives and potentially reclaim the majority after the upcoming 2026 mid-term election.

To paraphrase Smith Barney, they're going to have to make their majority the old fashioned way, by stealing it.

-PJ

104 posted on 04/02/2025 2:39:07 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too

I believe you have to now look beyond Wisconsin. You’ve got 2 governors races in 25 in competive states. There will be others.


105 posted on 04/02/2025 2:59:33 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: joesbucks
But not any races are being sold as "get majority quick" schemes like Wisconsin was being sold.

Governor races are an oddity sometimes. Manchin was popular in a red state that stayed red. Beshear is popular in a red state that stayed red. Florida toyed with being purple; at the district level it was majority red but it had a blue Supreme Court in 2000 and came close to electing a Democrat governor in 2018 (who was later discovered to be a gay meth addict).

Even Wisconsin has been swinging back and forth: Scott Walker won two terms after the teachers unions stormed the state house. And Glenn Youngkin won in Virginia after Terry McAuliffe told parents they had no business interfering in their children's schooling.

Governor races as portents of the future are more like turning a cargo ship at sea -- it takes a long time for the results to trickled down as change within the state. California was effectively red from Ronald Reagan to Pete Wilson, but then turned blue during the Clinton administration.

-PJ

106 posted on 04/02/2025 3:18:34 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: cableguymn

“If the rats change the map why not challenge them in a higher court?”

Exactly. If the Wisconsin supreme court tries, let’s get a federal judge in Texas or Florida to overturn it.


107 posted on 04/02/2025 3:38:26 PM PDT by sergeantdave (AI training involves stealing content from creators and not paying them a penny)
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To: Political Junkie Too

The ripple effects from today may have a profound impact on the elections of tomorrow.


108 posted on 04/02/2025 3:58:01 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: joesbucks
Sure, if your thinking is only fortune cookie deep. I'm sticking with my essay-length thoughts.

I find it interesting that yesterday you aked why Musk didn't flip the state when there were no state legislative races being run. Then you said you that didn't know why Musk was making Wisconsin so important until I explained what Democrats said about the state Supreme Court race. Then you said that redistricting was not on your radar.

Now, today, you think that Wisconsin "ripples" will have a "profound impact" on future elections when yesterday you knew nothing about the Wisconsin election at all?

You'll excuse me if I wait for some paragraphs on this before I take your word for it.

-PJ

109 posted on 04/02/2025 4:10:31 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too
You folks get hung up on semantics. I made have used an improper word, but making that win red was important for conservatives. And it was a giant swing and miss. But the important key is the winner of that race did so by a 10 point margin. No major poll had her by 10 points. And the most recent was 5 or less. On March 11 they were tied in a poll. Why from tie to 10?

Clearly Musk didn’t bring home the bacon. Maybe his act is getting old. Maybe it’s by design.

110 posted on 04/02/2025 5:17:08 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: joesbucks
I made have used an improper word, but making that win red was important for conservatives.

Seriously Joey ... Biden has left the stage ... go back to the DU where nobody cares how dumb you literally are!!!!!

111 posted on 04/02/2025 5:19:18 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Interesting. https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/the-wall-street-journal/trump-and-the-gop-confront-an-elon-musk-quandary-after-wisconsin-election/news-story/e8618a55bee3bccca34e6164d26c1b57


112 posted on 04/02/2025 5:19:36 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: Just mythoughts

Have never darkened that site unless through a search engine link.


113 posted on 04/02/2025 5:35:41 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: joesbucks

Oh, Joey, they are missing their village idiot ... There is NOTHING conservative about you or any of your mindless posts ... Sadly you are clueless just how far left you literally are... There is nothing ‘GOD’, family, or country about any of your twisted posts.


114 posted on 04/02/2025 5:42:23 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: joesbucks

“Clearly Musk didn’t bring home the bacon. Maybe his act is getting old. Maybe it’s by design.”

Your political instincts are insanely wrong.

It would take a book to walk through all the errors you made in that one short post.

omg.


115 posted on 04/02/2025 5:44:15 PM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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To: cgbg

Then why didn’t Wisconsin voters elect Schumer? Why did he lose by 10 points? Yes, Crawford had tons of outside money, but Musk dumped a lot toward Brad. Should have been a slam dunk win. Not even close.


116 posted on 04/02/2025 5:59:55 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: joesbucks

Here is the problem.

You repeated talking points of every single leftist media outlet in the country.

Some were so excited by this story they had article after article after article about it.

They used the exact same words and phrases—over and over and over again.

That means we are dealing with enemy propaganda—Operation Mockingbird.

Astroturf.

I am not going to waste my time refuting enemy propaganda.


117 posted on 04/02/2025 6:09:13 PM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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To: joesbucks
No. Wisconsin wasn't important; it was hyped to rally the Democrat base, which is demoralized right now. The two Florida special elections were important.

Democrats thought they had a chance to pick up those seats, but they were solidly Republican even in a special election with low turnout.

There is a civil war going on inside the Democrat party right now. The moderates are calling for introspection to understand why they lost; the left is calling for resistence. The moderates are looking for new ideas; the left is looking for new messages and messengers.

Did you see the clips of Bernie Sanders walking off of the interview set when he was asked about AOC and whether he thought she would be a good Senate colleague? Even though Sanders and AOC have been appearing together and the question was not unusual, Sanders knew it was a trick question. After Chuck Schumer supported the CR to fund the government until September, his left flank was outraged and called for him to be primaried -- floating AOC as his future opponent. Asking Sanders if he thought AOC would make a good "colleague" was really asking him if he thought Schumre should step aside.

In the lead-up to Tuesday's election, Hakeem Jeffries is saying that voters are rejecting the "rapidly deteriorating Republican brand," while Schumer was trying to get back on the good graces of his left by vowing to fight President Trump's tariffs "tooth and nail" and calling his policies an "absurd, crazy, chaotic trade war."

The fact that Jeffries and Schumer are becoming more shrill in their comments in the face of Republicans holding seats yesterday shows that Democrats are still ignoring what happened in November and have unrealistic expectation about 2026.

Why from tie to 10?

It's not about Musk. Consider that Susan Crawford won the Supreme Court race by 55-45, yet the Voter ID ballot initiative won by 61-39. In raw votes, there were 2.3 million votes cast in the SC race (1.26 million for Crawford vs. 1.04 million for Schimel.

However, in the Voter ID initiative, 1.12 million voted in favor of Voter ID and only 720,000 voted against it. That means that about as many people who voted for Crawford also voted for Voter ID (although not the same people, obviously). I'll have to take a closer look at the county numbers later, but it is curious that people voted for a liberal Supreme Court judge AND for picture voter IDs for elections in such a blue state.

Maybe THAT was the Musk effect?

-PJ

118 posted on 04/02/2025 6:10:15 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: joesbucks
I thought this was debunked by Karoline Leavitt this morning.

Maybe it takes a while for the news to reach Australia.

-PJ

119 posted on 04/02/2025 6:11:48 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too

Great post and solid summary.


120 posted on 04/02/2025 6:12:09 PM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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