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Remembering the Battle of Okinawa; Lessons Learned for Future Fights (80 years ago today)
defense.gov ^ | 03/27/2025 | David Vergun

Posted on 04/01/2025 4:38:00 AM PDT by DFG

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1 posted on 04/01/2025 4:38:00 AM PDT by DFG
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“In the waters around Okinawa, the Japanese launched the largest kamikaze, or suicide, attack of the war. Japanese planes rammed into Allied ships, sinking 26 and severely damaging 168. Almost 40% of the U.S. casualties during the battle were sailors lost in these attacks. “

Dad was on the Maryland, trying to shoot down the kamikaze who flew low over his head to impact the top of the #3 turret, killing 12 Sailors and Marines.


2 posted on 04/01/2025 4:45:27 AM PDT by null and void (Americans are a people increasingly separated by our connectivity. H/T MortMan)
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Kolakowski noted that some of the lessons learned from the battle can be applied to a possible future battle over Taiwan

Yes and no. As long as China can take Taiwan, casualties are not a concern.

3 posted on 04/01/2025 5:04:24 AM PDT by fso301
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The Unauthorized History of the Pacific War Podcast:

Operation ICEBERG-The Invasion of Okinawa Part 1 with Jon Parshall - Episode 418

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPMv6V0yFlc&list=PLvwPt9MhP599qIpTF0WCuRsNtye6hGb2j&index=21


4 posted on 04/01/2025 5:17:38 AM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Ask about franchise opportunities in your area.)
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Spent a couple of months there working at Kadena Air base- fascinating island. Can’t imagine how grueling combat must have been there.


5 posted on 04/01/2025 5:26:33 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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My son was TDY to Kadena, last year. He rather liked it.


6 posted on 04/01/2025 5:56:22 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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7 posted on 04/01/2025 6:04:01 AM PDT by DFG
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8 posted on 04/01/2025 6:08:05 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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What a bloodbath it was - moreso for the Japanese than for us but still.... As with most wars, the bloodiest battles usually come at the very end. Of course, no one knew if the bomb would work or even be available at the time of Okinawa.


9 posted on 04/01/2025 6:13:14 AM PDT by Rummyfan ( In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.)
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bttt


10 posted on 04/01/2025 6:13:17 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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Buckner was among the Americans killed on Okinawa.

Camp Buckner at West Point named for him I believe.

11 posted on 04/01/2025 6:15:20 AM PDT by Rummyfan ( In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.)
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The part that a lot of people miss in regard to a Chinese invasion of Taiwan is the incredible scale of sea lift that would have to be applied. The last major amphibious invasion of that scale was Inchon. That’s more than 70 years ago.

Getting the troops across great distances of water is a skill set that is owned, right now, by one nation: The US.

Now, add in the advances in anti-ship missile defense and the idea of a sea borne invasion of Taiwan becomes less and less realistic.


12 posted on 04/01/2025 6:27:32 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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**The Japanese military suffered even more, losing almost their entire force, including many who committed suicide. Around the same number of Okinawan civilians were killed or committed suicide.**

As I recall about 5,000 Okinawans were killed by the Japanese themselves due to ‘military necessity’. In short they were ‘in the way’, meaning the Japanese caste system didn’t think too much of them.


13 posted on 04/01/2025 6:30:35 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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“Unauthorized...” is a terrific series.


14 posted on 04/01/2025 6:38:00 AM PDT by TTFlyer (Lenin: that by the infliction of terror, a well-organized minority can conquer a nation.)
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Those who question the use of atomic bombs by the U.S. on Japan in WW2 need to study this battle.

Imagine the casualties that would have occurred had the Allies been forced to invade the mainland by conventional means.

15 posted on 04/01/2025 6:44:14 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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Dad was on the Maryland, trying to shoot down the kamikaze who flew low over his head to impact the top of the #3 turret, killing 12 Sailors and Marines.

Mine was an antitank gunner with the 27th ID. He was right on the front during the banzai attack on Saipan and was uninjured. On Okinawa, his sector was supposedly cleared when he was grazed in the head by a sniper. We were blessed with a generation of heroes, just when we needed them.

16 posted on 04/01/2025 6:48:36 AM PDT by awelliott (What one generation tolerates, the next embraces....)
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We were blessed with a generation of heroes, just when we needed them.

Yes we were.

17 posted on 04/01/2025 6:56:00 AM PDT by null and void (Americans are a people increasingly separated by our connectivity. H/T MortMan)
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Of course, no one knew if the bomb would work or even be available at the time of Okinawa.

And very few even knew there could be such a thing.

18 posted on 04/01/2025 6:57:54 AM PDT by null and void (Americans are a people increasingly separated by our connectivity. H/T MortMan)
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The large casualty count at Okinawa, the prospect of a million casualties invading Japan and war weariness made the decision to use the atomic bomb a rational choice. Critics of the use of the atomic bomb have no empathy for the young men who would have been killed if it had not been used.


19 posted on 04/01/2025 7:07:33 AM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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My Dad was there.

US Navy Ship USS DADE. Since he was a photographer, I grew up looking at pictures of the actual battle.


20 posted on 04/01/2025 7:09:10 AM PDT by left that other site (Ask Not What The Left is Doing. Ask What They Are Accusing YOU of Doing.)
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