Posted on 03/26/2025 6:03:27 AM PDT by RandFan
A woman claimed that she died on the operating table during brain surgery and watched surgeons as they drilled through her skull from above her body.
Pam Reynolds Lowery, from Atlanta, Georgia, who passed away in 2010, previously revealed that she had a near-death experience during a brain operation performed by Robert F. Spetzler at the Barrow Neurological Institute in Phoenix, Arizona in 1991.
Pam, who was 35 at the time, reported a series of incredible experiences while she was technically 'dead', including meeting relatives who had passed away and not wanting to return to her own body.
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Yup, and there are what is called vivid dreaming, and “double nightmares” where you think you have awakened from a bad dream, only to discover that you are still in the nightmare. Happens more when a person is sick, usually with fever. Can happen in stressful situations too. Especially the vivid dreaming where it seems real and is hard to tell the difference when you awaken. I’ve had a few of both type of dreams over the years. Hate hate hate the double nightmares! I think too that having watched horror movies might have contributed to such dreaming- like nightmare on elm Street where they were afraid to go to sleep for fear of meeting freddy- I think movies like that can influence the mind when dreaming, especially in stressful situations or when sick and feverish
There’s no record that he was mute either. He clulda been a chatterbox for all we know- they just might not have had instructions from God’s Holy Spirit to record it- we don’t know.
Did the experience affect your typing ability?
LOL! No wonder I learned to play the accordion instead of guitar.
Thanks, I’m good.
When I came to, I was soaking wet from docs dumping ice water and wet towels on me to try to bring the fever down. So it was raining in the room lol.
I don’t know if there is a state of being where the spirit hovers or moves about right before sxtusl physicsl death, I won’t say that there isn’t such a thing, but I will say that the bible is clear that upon the actusl physical death of the body/brain, the soul then is either present with the lord, or if the psrson is unsaved, in the grave awaiting judgement, and doesn’t know a thing until then.
I know that several people’s “souls” (I guess it was their souls) that were transported both to heaven, and to other parts of the world in the bible. Can God cause a person’s soul to 3xperience soemthing supernatural today? Sure- no reason why not. Does he still do so today for whatever hos own purposes may be? I can’t take a 100% stand either way on that- I can say I suspect maybe he does.
I also suspect that lying spirits can minister to a person’s mind too, and i also suspect that the mind can play some pretty spectacular tricks, and likely calls on repr3ssed images and memories when it is stressed and experiencing trauma, so it is hard to tell which is which.
Lol, lions hate accordions
For me there was no way of knowing that it was lightly raining outside.
There were no windows in the ICU.
Good because I was talking about MY 3xperince and being convinced it wasn’t real because it was not bliblical- i said nothing about other people’s experiences being fake or mistaken interpreta5ions fo4 what they experienced . If you’ll read my post carefully, i explained that thoroughly
There are many books on near death experiences I haven't read but have heard recently one doctor now deliberately sets up items on high places that the patients could never see from their beds and then asks them about these later.
Fr.Robert Spitzer has referenced the accidental one of the patient who said there was an old tennis shoe on the roof of the building next to where he revived after briefly being apparently dead. Staff climbed stairs and checked and found the shoe. No one could view it from the first building. Weird.
It is just fine.
The better explanation is that the brain is not the origin of consciousness but a conduit for it, just as a TV is not the source of the images and sound on display but a conduit for them. Kill the body and consciousness survives, just as smashing a TV does not eliminate the programming it displayed.
Notably, there are many examples of carefully controlled and well documented hypnotic past life regressions that support the view of consciousness as surviving death. Similarly, there are evidential mediums whose abilities at accessing the dead in spirit form are so well proven as to exclude fraud.
As for frightful NDEs, they seem to be a warning to change course in life, both for the person affected and for those who hear of the experience.
Although not a near death experience, my dad told me about the night one of his younger sisters died in the late 1920’s. She had been sick for some time and something that night caused him to wake up and go check on her. When he went to her room, he said he saw an angel above her taking her soul.
I read your post carefully. It clearly indicated that you attribute NDE experiences to body chemistry rather that OBE excursions. You seemed to generalize your experience into all NDEs.
There are a great many things that are not Biblical, yet are true.
Quite possible.
One depressing thing, to me, is that a theory says people just imagine the afterlife according to what they were taught. Instead of Jesus, the Hindus apparently see their religion’s figures for example.
Plus, like space alien abductions, people now see what others have said in their near death experience books and tv movies, so they are influenced to imagine some of the same things. The long tunnel, white light, loved ones from the past. Atheists and agnostics like to hear that. Goes along with their thinking gullible people believe in the “myths” of Judaism Christianity and this is part of the yokels’ fairy tales.
I would very much like to go to Heaven and be with my sweet wife Joy who died three years ago.
Bump
A lot of folks have had similar experineces- I do know that God allowed the experiences, for what purpose? I don’t know. Real? Perhaps. Strange? Most definitely! The mind and spirit are mysteriously wonderful things. I know my experience, even though not an actual oobe, was “real enough” that it shook me and remains with me 40 years later as though it just happened. It was intense, and not something I wish to repeat. I suspect your experience was perhaps somewhat life altering too- forming your personal conception of life after death, strengthening lerhaps your beleif no doubt? These experiences have a tendency to do that, and rightful.y so.
Wow! Nope! Nkw you are just being stubborn! Even after I explained it to you! Have a nice day
That is beautiful.
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