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To: from occupied ga

The elephant in the room is, Battery technology just isn’t “There” yet. Even if we had the batteries our electrical infrastructure could not charge it.
Politics cannot mandate changes in Laws of physics!
The state I spend a lot of time in, Hawaii, Gas cars are way cheaper to operate then EV’s.
Let the “Market” determine our needs, not some Democrat legislators.


6 posted on 03/25/2025 1:24:57 PM PDT by rellic (No such thing as a moderate Moslem or Democrat )
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“The state I spend a lot of time in, Hawaii, Gas cars are way cheaper to operate then EV’s.”

Electricity there is over 40 cents a kwhr but I don’t gas cars are way to cheaper to operate.


15 posted on 03/25/2025 2:04:36 PM PDT by TexasGator ('111111111/)
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I have no clue where any chargers even are.


16 posted on 03/25/2025 2:06:17 PM PDT by Fledermaus ("It turns out all we really needed was a new President!")
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To: rellic
The elephant in the room is, Battery technology just isn’t “There” yet.

Yes and no. I agree with you that the Dims are wrong in saying that EV's are a full replacement for gas cars in all situations and on all trips in all climates, etc.

But I disagree because I believe that there are some use cases for an EV to be practical even in a free market with no govt incentives or mandates. They're certainly not for everyone. And even though my wife and I do most of our driving in our EV to get tons of gas savings, we still like having a gas pickup for pickup chores and for the times an EV won't do.

But I wouldn't get an EV as an only car, or if I couldn't set up home charging, or if I didn't drive enough home charged miles to get enough gas savings to be worth it.

At https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4306603/posts?page=43#43 I answered another FReeper's questions with more details on the pro's and con's of EV and/or solar.

17 posted on 03/25/2025 2:09:51 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: rellic

“The state I spend a lot of time in, Hawaii, Gas cars are way cheaper to operate then EV’s.”

Electricity there is over 40 cents a kwhr but I don’t gas cars are way to cheaper to operate.


19 posted on 03/25/2025 2:13:52 PM PDT by TexasGator ('111111111/)
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To: rellic

“The state I spend a lot of time in, Hawaii, Gas cars are way cheaper to operate then EV’s.”

Residential rates are about 43 cents per kwhr. That is about 11 cents per mile.

At $4.50 a gallon and 30 mpg that is 15 cents per mile.


25 posted on 03/25/2025 2:42:10 PM PDT by TexasGator ('111111111/)
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To: rellic

The state I spend a lot of time in, Hawaii, Gas cars are way cheaper to operate then EV’s.

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There’s nothing cheap in Hawaii. Somethings are more expensive than others, but nothing is cheap. Last April while visiting Hawaii for my son’s wedding I found out. Went to Waikiki beach for the day. I bought my daughter a smoothie and I got a large coffee for a cool 25 USD. Ouch.


27 posted on 03/25/2025 2:55:39 PM PDT by mund1011 (We can ignore reality, but we cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality)
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The funny thing is Hawaii is where electric cars could make the most sense. Since they are islands, you’re just not going on any long range drive across multiple states.

That is if the electrical infrastructure could handle the load and it cannot.


30 posted on 03/25/2025 3:09:28 PM PDT by packrat35 (Pureblood! No clot shot for me!)
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