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To: moonhawk

“Do you have any examples of new tech batteries currently in the market?” How new do you want?

Give me a reference year to start with.

Use common sense. It takes time for new tech to hit the market.


35 posted on 03/25/2025 11:15:59 AM PDT by TexasGator ('111111111/)
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To: TexasGator

These are the ones a in commercial production that will be shaking up the PS market.

https://natron.energy/our-technology

Do the LCOS calcs for 50,000 cycles vs 3000 at $87 kWh cell costs....Yeah disruption level.

BYD uses CATL cells the largest manufacturer in the world by a huge margin.

https://www.energy-storage.news/byd-launches-sodium-ion-grid-scale-bess-product/

Pretty solid econ analysis.

https://www.power-technology.com/features/exclusive-sodium-batteries-to-disrupt-energy-storage-market/?cf-view

Then let’s not forget grid scale water and thermal tech is hot pun intended on the heels of power cells.

Httptps://highviewpower.com/news_announcement/highview-power-unveils-cryobattery-worlds-first-giga-scale-cryogenic-battery/

I have done SWD work with SAGE and this project. It easily scales to gigawatt hours there are over 100,000 wells in the Permian Basin any one of them could be retrofitted with SAGE tech.

https://newatlas.com/energy/sage-geosystems-huff-puff/

MIT is.going the other way using liquid metals to store heat at high round trip eff which is irrelevant if you get electrons cheap enough throw half away if need be. It’s LCOS AND electron cost.

https://news.mit.edu/2018/liquid-silicon-store-renewable-energy-1206

Gravel and Argon thermal should be super cheap as well.

https://www.theengineer.co.uk/content/news/newcastle-university-connects-first-grid-scale-pumped-heat-energy-storage-system/

Grid storage is here, the luddites will cry and moan. It really comes down to what can you buy electrons for and what can you sell them for later. Nothing more nothing less.

Solar and wind can produce sub $10 per MWh electrons this is fact today no literally today on a 80,000 megawatt sized market the sale price was $5 per megawatt hour from solar and wind this morning in real.time. Gas turbines cannot get to those levels of prices even with near zero as in $2 MMBTU fuel costs. So the age of power storage is here. Lots of money to be made in the field its what tech shakes out to have the lowest LCOS.


38 posted on 03/25/2025 12:24:24 PM PDT by GenXPolymath
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