Posted on 03/11/2025 6:27:41 AM PDT by MtnClimber
you can sympathize with any group or thing but the moment you advance or promote or physically support you are in a conspiracy or other violation of criminal/immigration laws.
YES, just as any cop on the beat knows, enforcing rules and laws. actual justice is left to judges and as for what the citizen expects, you win some and you lose some. the law is there for designations we only want them to enforce them equally.
Who employs the perp? The school?
Well, that's what this discussion is about.
It seems to me that we are edging up to a line which, if crossed, is very dangerous.
In terms of so-called "hate crimes", this line may have already been crossed.
It cannot be that if words, granted, critical or offensive words, can be a crime or not a crime depending on the race or religion of person to whom the words are spoken.
Enforcement of such laws is BY DEFINITION arbitrary and tyrannical.
all crimes are hate crimes. motives should only be adjudicated at sentencing, most are envy or revenge related. conspiracy laws are only enforced when actions toward the particular crime is taken, rioting or stopping the movement or legal activity. instigating/causing harm. severity allowed is the legal red line.
We have already crossed that line. We are on dangerous ground now and have been for a while.
Our Leftist enemies use our virtues against us. They justify their violence as a right to "free speech", while they condemn our speech as violence.
Actual Leftist violence against persons has been repeatedly dismissed without charges or even arrests. Peaceful protests by the Right have been repeatedly met with arrests, imprisonment without charges, convictions, fines, and jail terms. Even a murder has been permitted in Denver. Leftists doxxing threatens anyone and their families who speak criticism of the Left.
When rules break down in such a preposterous condition, the only rational response is "Tit-for-Tat". They used the laws against us when they were in power. We will use the laws against them when we are in power. It is ugly and dangerous, and it still must the path we follow.
I agree, "Hate crime" laws are indeed a very bad idea, firmly within that region of abuse where they should simply be repealed. We do not need them, and they are more dangerous to us than to our enemies.
"Membership in a designated terrorist organization" as a crime is a very dangerous idea on the edge of abuse. But that is exactly where we must go, and right to the edge too.
We cannot continue to tolerate the activities of HAMAS, MS-13, Tren de Aragua, the Muslim Brotherhood, or dozens of other groups in this country. If the members of these groups are American citizens, perhaps we had best wait until they commit actual crimes before putting them in prison or executing them. You know, we can use that rule of law idea with due process, Constitutional rights, and presumption of innocence until proven guilty.
But if the person is a foreigner, and in particular one illegally in the country, then we must deport them, and quickly. If they have been previously deported, then five to ten years in a prison camp is appropriate before the deportation. And afterwards, if they are ever caught coming back again.
Nasty stuff. We will need to do it. Then we will need to clean ourselves. I do not have all the answers.
The discussion continues, as you suggested.
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