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To: Boundless
The biz jet did get a phone number to call after crossing the active without clearance. If you are aircrew, you never want to get a phone number.

Years ago I got "that number." Delta almost ran me down, it was a near miss. When asked how close I lied. I was not at fault and it was probably a controller that F--- up. I know this made a controller happy and a Delta Pilot happy. I am not a fan of the FAA. I suspect the Delta Pilot also lied as I never got a follow up phone call.

This was during the Aircraft Controllers strike in the 80s and ATC was doing the best they could with limited staff. President Reagan told them if they went on strike he would fire them. They went on strike and Reagan fired all that did.

16 posted on 02/25/2025 10:22:07 AM PST by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, oilfield roughneck, drilling fluid tech, geologist, pilot, pharmacist ,MAGA)
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To: cpdiii

AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLER !


18 posted on 02/25/2025 10:24:56 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: cpdiii

I remember when that happened. I was on the last plane coming over from the UK before they all got turned around. I was four hours late and had an adventure getting from JFK to Maryland.


24 posted on 02/25/2025 10:39:23 AM PST by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too. 😁 " - Robert Conquest )
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To: cpdiii

Apparently the ATC audio is available (I’ve not heard it), and a reader comment at the Herald suggests that mastery of basic aviation English might have been an issue.

Makes me wonder if the tail number of the biz jet begins with N…


32 posted on 02/25/2025 10:48:07 AM PST by Boundless (You don't need to wait for MAHA.)
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To: cpdiii

A guy I knew back then had a dad who was middle management at the FAA in ATL. He went into the replacement ATC training program and ended up moving to Anchorage and doing a full career as a Federal ATC up there.


34 posted on 02/25/2025 10:50:41 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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