Posted on 02/24/2025 7:23:09 AM PST by Beave Meister
Works for me. There is not a damn thing I need from Germany, or France, or any European so called country. On top of that they will all be sharia following Muslim countries soon anyway.
I can’t think of anything I might need from a stone-age bunch of barbarians anyway.
Bibi, don’t go to Germany. They will not be a friend to you, and they don’t want to be friends with Trump. You may not make it back home. Zoom the meeting.
Has airhead Annalena Baerbock been given her pink slip?
The fate of Europe is the fate of Europe. Given German Europe imports the third world, has closed its nuclear and coal energy resources, and talked loudly about disenfranchising about 20 percent of its voting citizens, it seems Merz -- Mr. Little Merkel -- is indifferent.
When the CDU makes another coalition with those wacky Leftists, it will prove again how indifferent.
A coalition government with CDU and AfD would be not "indifferent." It would be different.
OK, Merz— and be WHAT? Dependent on Russia and China and the Belt around your NECK road? Will you not learn how to be dependent on yourselves... that is as all nations should be—
Apparently fear of a return to a non-National Socialist greatness for Germany is not possible— as Socialism requires other peoples money— and imported foreign illegal labor to support their overweighted welfare state. Problem number ONE!
“New German Chancellor Merz says ‘priority’ is to make county, Europe independent of Trump-era USA”
Great, go for it. Now its time for the USA to pull its troops from Germany and NATO. Time for the big bad Euros to defend themselves.
“New German Chancellor Merz says ‘priority’ is to make county, Europe independent of Trump-era USA”
Great, go for it. Now its time for the USA to pull its troops from Germany and NATO. Time for the big bad Euros to defend themselves.
I note that JD did not make a single reference either to the structure of NATO or to the delinquency of NATO members on their 2% contributions. Rather the entirety of his speech was focused on immigration and the failure of politicians to adhere to their constituents desires because those desires could not be made manifest due to suppression of free speech and opinion.
The issue of delinquency by NATO members is not new, indeed it has been subject of complaints by American presidents for several cycles now. Even Trump's more strident demands have not resulted in murmurings by NATO members that they might break the treaty. Nothing from Germany the champion among European nations in their outspoken emniity toward America.
Therefore to the degree that the article cites payment of dues as the real causus Belli among the NATO nations, I think it misleads us.
On the other hand, Vice President Vance's allegations concerning suppression of speech and opinion by the member nations drew a furious response. This came on the heels of the gauntlet Vance had thrown down only a few days before in Paris at the AI Summit in which he declared that the United States would not be subject to unfair regulations or even prohibitions done in Europe that purported to affect America's corporations or America's individuals exercising American understanding of free speech.
Vance was not fastidious nor diplomatic in either speech. It was clearly a demarche and was accepted as such by the elitists in these halls who heard them. Some say that the rank-and-file of Germans and Europeans who do not qualify as "elitists" found much to support in the speeches.
I believe Trump and Vance were saying that if Europe is to continue on its path of unbridled immigration and totalitarian suppression of opinion and speech, a line will soon be crossed beyond which the United States will not be willing to guarantee the security of NATO. At that point Europe will not be worth defending.
I believe the European elitists understood this as well. Neither side explicitly drew that line in the sand but it is, I think, the real root of the problem and the bitterness. I think those elitist were offended because it strikes at the very basis of their power.
Let us assume for sake of analysis that matters have got to the point that Europe is actually considering its own security setup.
They may daydream but they will not come close to effectuating any realistic military force. They will not pay for it, they will not submit to it, they will not agree to be commanded by a supreme Commander. Without the United States such an undertaking is virtually hopeless.
Therefore, I expect a lot of moral outrage and even perhaps a sham of a European armed force to be created but no effective agency capable of defending Europe. There will be talk but in the end Europe must submit to the leadership of the USA or leave itself vulnerable to the Bear, now aligned with China.
So the question becomes, how far will Trump push Europe on these issues that I believe are at the root of the problem?
Have you been to Minnesota, Maine, Los Angeles? The Bronx? The Muslim invasion is here!
"Oh don't throws me into dat briar patch!"
You stated the following:
Even Trump's more strident demands have not resulted in murmurings by NATO members that they might break the treaty.
If members don't abide by a core expectation (percent of GDP for their individual militaries), especially for years, is the treaty still “in force?”
You need to focus on making Germany German again.
Way too late for that.
I agree. Germany needs to stop freeloading off us and take care of itself and its own national security without our help.
If the US government isn’t going to focus its resources on Europe then where should it focus?
What about the needs of the USA? Maybe our government could give that idea a try.
The moron is worried about Trump and Vance when he’s being over-run by Muslim hordes. He’s not going to be doing anything but bowing toward Mecca 5 times a day.
Europe has changed in the past 70 years. They are becoming what we fought a war to save them from.
President Trump sees this and is beginning to dis-engage the US from Europe. Removing our military and leaving NATO is just part of the plan.
Get us out of the UN may be on the table. Having the UN move to Brussels would be good.
Okee dokee Hans, where in Germany’s flailing economy are ya gonna come up with the money to have an actual modern large military force? I have no problem with the US pulling out Europe, but it sounds like you are just clapping back at Trump and waiting for the next democrap led gravy train to suck at.
He also said Trump’s recent comments show “Americans, at least this part of the Americans, this administration, are largely indifferent to the fate of Europe.”
While Europe has repeatedly shown that they care deeply about the fate of America, right?
He’s so dumb he doesn’t even realize he’s doing exactly what Trump wants him to do - pull your own weight!
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