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Apple pulls data protection tool after UK government security row
BBC ^ | 02/21/2025 | Zoe Kleinman

Posted on 02/21/2025 7:11:57 AM PST by BenLurkin

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1 posted on 02/21/2025 7:11:57 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Rotten to the core


2 posted on 02/21/2025 7:14:40 AM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: BenLurkin

when encryption is outlawed, only outlaws will have encryption ...


3 posted on 02/21/2025 7:17:54 AM PST by catnipman ((A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil))
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To: BenLurkin

The BBC is wrong.

The data will still be encrypted, but the decryption keys will be available to government.

That’s a very big difference. They make it sound like anyone can see your stuff when this happens.


4 posted on 02/21/2025 7:26:23 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ConservativeMind

As simple as one law change, in any country, and you lose data security


5 posted on 02/21/2025 7:30:44 AM PST by George from New England (escaped CT back in 2006 thi)
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To: BenLurkin

To be concise the UK demands the right to spy on its citizens.

This fits in perfectly with their prohibitions on speech, eliminating ownership of tools to defend yourself, high taxation, etc.

Is Keir Starmer related to Nicholas Maduro? The kind of look alike…


6 posted on 02/21/2025 7:38:58 AM PST by Made In The USA (One and Two and Three and Four and)
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To: ConservativeMind
The data will still be encrypted, but the decryption keys will be available to government.

If that's the case, the people need to take their government back. That's a police state.

7 posted on 02/21/2025 7:39:10 AM PST by politicket
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But earlier this month the UK government asked for the right to see the data, which currently not even Apple can access.

NEVER forget when Obama bin laden was spying on candidate Trump it was with the help of the Brits not to mention the Christopher Steele connection.

The Brits are BAD actors.

It was my understanding that Team Obama was using the Brits for unconstitutional "backdoor" warrants that if done legally in the US would have required FISA warrants which were of course eventually obtained.

The use of these "backdoor" warrants was not the brainchild of the Obama administration but had been initiated early under the Cheney/Bush Crime Family.

As we know the Patriot Act was a misnomer because it was abused by the opposite of patriots.

I always hoped more details of the events of 2015-2016 unconstitutional spying would come out if Trump took back the WH.

If so, the Brits will be seen as the vicious spy state that it is all the while still giving us lectures on how bad Putin is and how he goes after domestic political enemies.

8 posted on 02/21/2025 7:44:17 AM PST by Biblebelter
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To: monkeyshine

The only true end to end encryption is based on RSA.
Signal and Proton are the only ones who use it correctly.
The rest all have corporate access to the keys.
VPN is probably the weakest security unless full VPN protection is implemented.


9 posted on 02/21/2025 7:47:06 AM PST by Zathras
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10 posted on 02/21/2025 7:54:15 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Biblebelter

***The use of these “backdoor” warrants was not the brainchild of the Obama administration but had been initiated early under the Cheney/Bush Crime Family.

As we know the Patriot Act was a misnomer because it was abused by the opposite of patriots.***

When President Carter passed way and people on FR were ranking the worst Presidents and putting Carter at the top with no mention of Bush I found it laughable. “The War on Terror” and the lies and propaganda spewed to us to make us buy in to those wars. The Patriot Act. And last but not least, The Dept of Homeland Security. He made Carter look like a choir boy.


11 posted on 02/21/2025 8:15:22 AM PST by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God. ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: ConservativeMind

the decryption keys will be available to government.


How long will it be that the UK department which holds the keys is hacked and on the Dark Web?


12 posted on 02/21/2025 8:22:22 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Biblebelter

Originally form what I understand is the limey losers wanted access to even users in other countries.

We need to smuggle a lot of weaponry into the UK and see if any of their men still have the balls to correct their current situation.


13 posted on 02/21/2025 8:41:05 AM PST by Manuel OKelley
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To: BenLurkin

Fascist police state. That’s what happens when you have no Second Amendment guarantees.


14 posted on 02/21/2025 8:42:49 AM PST by hardspunned (Look for the“Putin Stooge” libel, news from Ukraine you’ve gradually grown to trust over 30 months )
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To: Zathras

Didn’t France arrest that Telegram guy for refusing to unlock encryption?


15 posted on 02/21/2025 8:45:54 AM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: BenLurkin
So Apple *IS* a bunch of cowards who will bow to government Fascism, so long as it isn't our government wanting to see terrorist data.

Apple is helping the British Fascists suppress free speech and helping them to spy on their citizens.

Remember all that posturing from Apple some years ago when the FBI wanted to see inside a terrorist's cell phone?

Lots of speeches and moral posturing, and now they have capitulated to a government even more intrusive and less respecting of rights than our own.

16 posted on 02/21/2025 8:54:24 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: politicket

“If that’s the case, the people need to take their government back. That’s a police state”

As is usually the case, people get the government they deserve. They voted for this.


17 posted on 02/21/2025 9:39:34 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you i9s how they. control you. )
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To: DiogenesLamp

Didn’t they do something similarly in China? Or was that Google? Regardless this can be repeated now in any country including the US given the lean of the regime.


18 posted on 02/21/2025 9:47:59 AM PST by xp38
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To: DiogenesLamp

“So Apple *IS* a bunch of cowards who will bow to government Fascism, so long as it isn’t our government wanting to see terrorist data.
Apple is helping the British Fascists suppress free speech and helping them to spy on their citizens.”

I think you are misreading the situation. The UK is demanding a backdoor so they can decrypt user’s encrypted, private data. Apple fought that, lost, and instead of providing the backdoor is just killing the whole service.

This is the best they can do in a bad situation. It tells people in the UK their data is not private. There is no illusion about it. It allows people to make an informed choice about their data.


19 posted on 02/21/2025 10:05:31 AM PST by Wayne07
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To: BenLurkin

1984 was set in England,after all.


20 posted on 02/21/2025 10:51:01 AM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isnt free)
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