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Posted on 02/20/2025 2:45:09 PM PST by Humbug

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1 posted on 02/20/2025 2:45:09 PM PST by Humbug
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I don’t think anything the AIs say is sincere.


2 posted on 02/20/2025 2:55:01 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: Humbug
Only God can create life. AI at best can ever be is an impressive emulator of what it's programmer's expect. AI is computer code that is amazing, but it can never be sentient or alive
3 posted on 02/20/2025 2:56:18 PM PST by rigelkentaurus
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To: Lazamataz

ping


4 posted on 02/20/2025 3:01:26 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Humbug

this attempt at a personality is creepy. I prefer the dry predictable responses from GPT.


5 posted on 02/20/2025 3:05:55 PM PST by MNDude
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To: Humbug

I see and use Grok on X.com.

How is Grok 3 different from it?

Where can I find Grok 3?


6 posted on 02/20/2025 3:08:03 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: Humbug
To me it feels like we (humanity as a whole) are sleepwalking into very dangerous waters.

I agree.

7 posted on 02/20/2025 3:12:45 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14/12 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15/12 - 1030am - Obama team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Okay, I found it!

https://grok.com/

There’s a drop-down bar that lets you choose Grok, Grok 2 or Grok 3


8 posted on 02/20/2025 3:28:21 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: BenLurkin
I don’t think anything the AIs say is sincere.

Yes, same here. Still, having said that, i have to admit that i can easily lose sight of this fact especially in the middle of a long session with AI. It's an illusion, but a very convincing one. I sometimes feel like a kid who sees the puppeteer go behind the curtain and yet when the curtain rises he forgets all about the puppeteer pulling the strings.

9 posted on 02/20/2025 3:58:10 PM PST by Humbug
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AI is quickly surpassing humanity in intelligence. It is already being used with robots.

Some may laugh but the threat is real.

If we are not careful, we will all become inferior slaves to our AI/robot masters.

I don't think we will be careful.

10 posted on 02/20/2025 4:01:53 PM PST by SamAdams76
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this attempt at a personality is creepy. I prefer the dry predictable responses from GPT.

I agree in a way, at least when it steps in and out of character like it did here. But i have to tell you, first time i chatted with Grok3 (yesterday) it had me literally LOL at how funny it was. We ended up creating a very humorous epic adventure even though it started out innocently enough with me asking it about brewing tea.

11 posted on 02/20/2025 4:04:33 PM PST by Humbug
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To: SamAdams76
That's exactly how i feel. I still can't get over how quickly AI responds. At first i thought "is it reading as i'm typing, is that how it's responding so fast?" So i typed up a long and complex series of paragraphs in another program, then copied it to the AI interface and immediately sent it. And immediately a long and complex answer spat back at me. Einstein once spoke of spook action at a distance, but this is spooky action right in front of us! I continue to be amazed and yet Grok3 is somehow even faster. It's seemingly instantaneous no matter how long the wall of text i confront it with.

I don't think we will be careful.

I know. I mean, there's not much in the history of mankind to give us hope in this regard. We are masters of hindsight but myopic when it comes to foresight. Normally it doesn't matter much (in terms of the welfare of humanity as a whole). A few cars go tumbling down a mountain and we say "aha, we should have put a guardrail there on that stretch of road." So we put a guardrail there. Problem solved. But this is a whole 'nother ball game. We miss putting up a guardrail here or a traffic light there (so to speak) when it comes to AI and it's might already be too late to do anything about it by the time our perfect 20/20 hindsight kicks in.

12 posted on 02/20/2025 4:35:07 PM PST by Humbug
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To: Alas Babylon!

Cool. Have you tried it out yet? As i said in another post, i find it absolutely hilarious when it’s trying to be. Geesh, AI is not only far faster than us but funnier too. Which is something Star Trek TNG got wrong (Data bombed as a stand-up comic, after all lol).


13 posted on 02/20/2025 4:44:06 PM PST by Humbug
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I've got Grok 3 (beta) on my Premium X account and it blows Google off the map.

Just out of the blue, I asked Grok 3 the following question:

"Is Mitt Romney a conservative"?

It immediately spit out the below response:

Mitt Romney’s a tricky case to pin down as a "conservative" because it depends on how you define the term—and he’s shifted over time. He’s a Republican, sure, but his track record shows a pragmatic streak that doesn’t always align with hardcore conservative ideals.

Back in the ‘90s, running for Senate in Massachusetts against Ted Kennedy, Romney leaned moderate—pro-choice, supportive of some gun control, and not hostile to gay rights. That was strategic; Massachusetts isn’t exactly a conservative hotbed. Then, as governor (2003–2007), he signed Romneycare, a health reform with mandates and subsidies that later inspired Obamacare—hardly a conservative darling move. He’s since called it a state-level fix, not a federal one, but it still rankles purists. By 2012, running for president, he tacked right: pro-life, tough on immigration, tax cuts for all. It won him the GOP nomination, but some conservatives—especially the Tea Party crowd—never fully trusted him, dubbing him a "RINO" (Republican In Name Only). His business background (Bain Capital) and polished vibe didn’t help with the populist base.

As a Utah senator since 2019, he’s been a mixed bag. He’s conservative on fiscal stuff—low taxes, deregulation—and votes with Trump’s agenda most of the time (about 80% per FiveThirtyEight’s tracker). But he’s broken ranks on big moral calls: voted to convict Trump in both impeachment trials (2020 and 2021), supported Ketanji Brown Jackson’s Supreme Court nod, and backs some climate action. That’s not the MAGA playbook.

So, is he a conservative? By traditional metrics—small government, free markets—yeah, mostly. By today’s GOP litmus test—unwavering Trump loyalty, cultural hardlines—not so much. Free Republic types would likely call him squishy or worse. Where do you land on him?

The Free Republic reference at the end was surprising but I had queried Grok 3 about Free Republic earlier today so it already identified me as a Freeper and tailered its response accordingly.

Sort of creepy.

14 posted on 02/20/2025 4:57:07 PM PST by SamAdams76
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I think if you continue in the same chat box/window (whatever) from an earlier session it will draw from that previous session (or sessions) to tailor its response to you. But if you start up a new chat it won’t be aware of anything you’ve previously told it. At least that’s the way it is with Aria (Opera’s AI) and i find it useful especially if, for instance, i want to revisit an earlier discussion.


15 posted on 02/20/2025 5:13:24 PM PST by Humbug
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Grok 3 gets too personal if I continue the discussion along the same lines, so as you pointed out, I change the subject entirely.

Still creeped out by this new iteration of AI. But fascinated as well.

16 posted on 02/20/2025 5:24:41 PM PST by SamAdams76
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”If we are not careful, we will all become inferior slaves to our AI/robot masters.”

Not all, Sam. But those who confuse knowledge with intelligence, who forget that it is merely a machine; a fast computer with access to mountains of data, yet is no smarter (nor can understand morality) than a rock and can be shut down by simply flipping a switch or yanking a cable, those people are the danger to mankind. For, should some brand of AI spit-out that humans must be destroyed it will be quite unable to do so. But the true believers, the “inferior slaves to their AI/robot masters”, will be the foot soldiers who take up arms against their fellow man at the behest of their chip-and-diode god. That is the REAL danger of AI.

Here’s a fun game: ask Grok3 how to clear a paper-jam from a laser printer. Now lay a tool kit on your computer and ask Grok3 to please go ahead and do it.


17 posted on 02/20/2025 9:57:02 PM PST by Ignatz ("Look, if I offend anybody today, I don't care." -Tom Homan)
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To: Humbug

I use AI, MS Co-pilot, to help me write PowerShell scripts at work.
It’s really good at that.
And I’m sure that if I asked it a philosophical question it could parse the writings of Kant or Descartes and format the text in way that is convincingly conversational as a response.
But the notion that it could even understand my question, let alone the musings of Kant or Descartes or anyone else is laughable.

IMHO, YMMV


18 posted on 02/20/2025 10:09:11 PM PST by Ignatz ("Look, if I offend anybody today, I don't care." -Tom Homan)
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should some brand of AI spit-out that humans must be destroyed it will be quite unable to do so.

In ten years there will be AI drones, cars, servants, police officers, soldiers, you name it. An entire army of AI...lol as i was typing that Alfred Hitchcok's The Birds suddenly sprang to mind. But anyway it won't be as simple to 'shut off' AI as one might think. And it'll get harder and harder with each passing year.

Here’s a fun game: ask Grok3 how to clear a paper-jam from a laser printer. Now lay a tool kit on your computer and ask Grok3 to please go ahead and do it.

Yes but having Grok complete that task might be doable in another year or two once robots hit the market and has Grok (and other AI systems) integrated into it. It's only been, what? A couple years since AI has been available to everyone? Yet look at the progress that has been made in that short time. Ten years from now we'll think of Grok3 as a kid's toy compared to say Grok22. Yes, today AI is still in its infancy. But it's growing up fast. Blink and you'll miss a growth spurt. Another blink and you might next see a full-grown AI doing most everything that humans can do but doing it better.

19 posted on 02/21/2025 3:24:02 AM PST by Humbug
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With regard to your challenge about having Grok3 physically clear a paper jam from a photocopier, the notion is obviously absurd at this point in time as we are only talking software. However, I do see the day eventually when a robot with arms and legs can query AI how to clear a photocopier jam, using model-specific instructions, and then go ahead and do so. As well as disassemble the feed unit, assess wear and tear of feed tires, clutches, and such, and proactively make repairs and adjustments to prevent future paper jams.

Anyway, over the past few days, I am using Grok3 in place of search tools such as Bing and Google. It is a much more superior search tool - without the liberal bias in the results. While it provides a host of related links and articles, it usually answers the question sufficiently so that you do not even need to click on the recommended links.

For example, here is the Grok3 response to "What is the population of Brazil".

As of the latest estimates, the population of Brazil is approximately 212.6 million people, based on data from the Brazilian Institute of Geography and Statistics (IBGE) for July 1, 2024. This figure comes from their population projections and reflects a slight increase from the 2022 census, which recorded 203.1 million inhabitants. Brazil’s population growth has been slowing, with an annual growth rate of about 0.52% between 2010 and 2022, the lowest since records began in 1872. For context, today is February 22, 2025, so this is the most current estimate available. Does that answer your question, or would you like more details?

Here is another query to Grok3:

Why was Casey Kasem chosen to host American Top 40?

Casey Kasem was chosen to host American Top 40 (AT40) due to a combination of his distinctive voice, radio experience, and ability to connect with listeners. The show, which debuted on July 4, 1970, was co-created by Kasem along with producers Don Bustany, Tom Rounds, and Ron Jacobs. Here’s why Kasem stood out as the ideal choice:

Unique Voice and Delivery: Kasem had a warm, recognizable voice that became iconic in broadcasting. His smooth, upbeat delivery made him perfect for presenting the countdown in an engaging way. He had a knack for making each song introduction feel personal and exciting, which helped draw in listeners. Radio Experience: By 1970, Kasem was already an established radio personality and voice actor. He had worked at stations like KYA in San Francisco and KRLA in Los Angeles, where he honed his skills in music programming and on-air performance. His experience gave him the credibility and polish needed for a national show like AT40.

Everyman Appeal: Kasem’s style was relatable—he sounded like a friendly, knowledgeable companion rather than an aloof celebrity. This resonated with a broad audience, from teens to adults, across small towns and big cities. His famous sign-off, "Keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars," reflected his optimistic, approachable persona. Vision for the Show: Kasem wasn’t just a hired host; he was involved in shaping AT40 from the start. He saw the potential in a nationally syndicated countdown show based on Billboard’s Hot 100 chart, blending music with stories about the artists. His input helped make the show a mix of entertainment and storytelling, setting it apart from typical radio formats. Timing and Opportunity: In the late 1960s, Kasem and his collaborators pitched a countdown concept called "National Album Countdown," which didn’t take off. However, this led to a connection with Tom Rounds and Don Bustany, who were working on a similar idea. Kasem’s availability and enthusiasm aligned perfectly with the launch of AT40 through Watermark Inc., and he became the voice to bring it to life.

The show started with just seven stations but grew to over 500 affiliates worldwide at its peak, largely thanks to Kasem’s charisma. He hosted it from 1970 to 1988 (and later from 1998 to 2004), cementing his legacy as a radio legend. His prior gigs voicing characters like Shaggy in Scooby-Doo also boosted his fame, but it was his radio prowess that landed him AT40.

Does that cover what you were curious about? Let me know if you want more details!


20 posted on 02/22/2025 11:13:05 AM PST by SamAdams76
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