Posted on 02/18/2025 5:53:55 AM PST by V_TWIN
Just askin- were you ever a pilot? (Not an attempted slam, just a question)
The most important is being able to see the runway you are landing on. With those weather conditions the pilot might have had a lot of difficulty with that.
Yeah the spinny-thingy-up-front planes I flew REQUIRED a view of the runway. I simply could not fly/ would not fly when the weather was close to minimums at the destination.
I was OK up in or above the soup (IFR) but NOT low ceilings and fog on approach. Hated that, arguably wasn’t 100% safe as a pilot, so I didn’t take off.
That must have been terrifying, especially knowing how jet fuel burns.
Thank God it didn’t ignite and all survived.
Looked to this lay person that the flames came after impact.
The CRJs have short gear struts and low ground clearance so there is not much margin to prevent a ground strike with a wingtip with an unexpected roll.
Pilot may have had a case of "Get-there-itis" when a go around or divert might have been appropriate.
Looks like that to me. Looking at the video at 00:04 he was rolling right before touchdown. If the wing had stayed attached he would have ground looped.
I didn't see a flare either but I don't think the landing would have been hard enough to break the right gear strut.
Didn’t you forget the sarcasm note?
“Just askin- were you ever a pilot? “
No. Don’t fly much. I read that the airliners can land without the pilot doing anything. Nowadays, cars can come close to driving themselves.
What’s was airplane’s autopilot or flight management system thinking as this plane approached the runway? Was it screaming warnings?
Modern ones can do all that as you suggest. For instance what most folks realize is that the Airbus jet at the center of the “Miracle on the Hudson” story had a ‘ditch in the water’ mode. Sully just had to make the right decision fast, which he did, line up the aircraft, which he did, then activate the ‘ditch mode’ which closed all the right vents to keep water out, set the flaps and managed the descent (probably hands off) all the way to the waters surface.
This 16 year old CRJ was a good but budget short haul aircraft. It would not have all the modern gizmos.
To your point all the new Boeing 7X7s and Airbus’s can fly the plane from initiation of takeoff all the way to landing, if the airports are up to date as well. Most pilots don’t do that due to deviations imposed by heavy traffic and air traffic Controller instructions. Trans-ocean flights are so automated the airlines have STRICT rules about who can sleep when in the cockpit, along with ways of monitoring that 😉
“It would not have all the modern gizmos.”
The electronic gizmos are getting cheap — cameras, transmission methods, processors, actuators, throw in software. Are we humans becoming obsolete?
"Every one already knows the definition of a 'good' landing is one from which you can walk away. But very few know the definition of a 'great landing.' It's one after which you can use the airplane another time."
**nothing** authorized to be in the commercial cockpit is cheap. Also the older aircraft cant fit or power or integrate new ‘stuff’ easily. And the FAA hasnt certified, because no one has asked the to, or spent the money for testing, etc etc
Like trying to upgrade the cockpit of an F-14 (think TopGun Maverick) to the glass cockpit and gizmos of an F-35B — aint going to happen, aint gonna work anyways.
As a private pilot/ general aviation you have more leeway in using a handheld Garmin or even your smartphone for VFR navigation, but it’s not going to integrate into your 16 year old Cessna 182.
The plane didn’t flare and do that slow descent to a soft touch of the wheels. It hit hard like an F-18 on a carrier.
“*nothing** authorized to be in the commercial cockpit is cheap.”
No doubt that’s true. In cars, the self-driving equipment is certainly of high quality because wrecks caused by its malfunction will be costly. But it’s not that expensive.
My daughter had a car with driver-assist option. She got a rear fender dent in a parking lot, but the repair was very expensive because a sensor was knocked out of alignment, and the checking and re-alignment was a big job, so said the repair shop.
I don’t defend DEI, although some here seem to.
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