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To: cold start

you could be right. I don’t know.
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I asked perplexity ai exactly what the hindu nationalists believe about the aryans. This was the reply.
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many Hindu nationalists believe that Aryans originated in India and spread westward, rather than migrating into India from elsewhere. This view, known as the “Out of India” theory or “Indigenous Aryans” theory, is popular among Hindu right-wing groups and some Indian scholars.

The “Out of India” theory emerged in the 1980s and posits that India is the homeland of the Aryans, who composed the Vedas, built the Indus Valley cities, and then migrated out to Iran and Europe2. This belief aligns with Hindu nationalist ideology, which emphasizes the indigenous origins of Indian civilization and rejects the idea of Aryan migration or invasion from outside1.

Hindu nationalists often find the concept of Aryan migration unpalatable for several reasons:

It challenges the idea that Aryans or Vedic culture were the singular source of Indian civilization1.

It puts Aryans on the same footing as later Muslim conquerors of India.

It conflicts with the emphasis on racial purity in some Hindu nationalist ideologies.

However, it’s important to note that current genetic, linguistic, and archaeological evidence generally supports the theory of Aryan migration into India, rather than out of it. Despite this, some Hindu nationalist groups continue to promote the “Out of India” theory and campaign to remove mentions of Aryan migration from textbooks


38 posted on 02/07/2025 7:20:46 AM PST by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

Whether or not there were migrations into India, the word “Aryan” has been misused badly in discussions. The word is of Sanskrit origin and was limited to usage by one particular tribe of the numerous tribes in India -the Bharatas (from whom India’s other name of Bharat is derived). The word Aryan (meaning noble) was almost exclusively used by them to refer to themselves, though they occasionally did extend it to others (mentioned in Rig veda, the most ancient holy book of Hinduism - before 1500 BCE). As time passed and their cultural influence spread, more people called themselves Aryans including their enemies-the ancient Iranianians (The word Iran means the land of the Aryans). A large part of northern India was called Aryavarta - the home of the Aryans.All the oldest usages of the word Aryan are from Hindu scriptures, starting from the oldest book-the Rig veda.

Even today, the word Aryan is used to describe Sanskrit and all the languages derived from it (known as the Indo-Aryan languages). No people outside of the India-Iranian region have historically used or been called Aryans.


46 posted on 02/07/2025 10:11:50 PM PST by cold start
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