[1Old Pro]

Constant government mandates for mpg and pollution control have caused manufacturers to have to make design compromises that have degraded the expected longevity of new vehicles. This is not to mention the sky rocketing prices that have resulted partially from manufacturers having to make up for $Billions lost trying to comply with Electric Vehicle mandates.

Things are going wrong with 2-5 year old cars that shouldn't be going wrong and then the dealer gets 1-2k for fixing it - something ain't right.

[SPDSHDW]

all manufactures are seeing a decent drop in Quality, with Stellantis, Honda and GM(as usual) at the top spots.

Cheap garbage parts.

my 91 wrangler will outlive most 2020+ cars. Stupid easy to maintain and source parts for.

[fireman15]

Things are going wrong with 2-5 year old cars that shouldn't be going wrong and then the dealer gets 1-2k for fixing it - something ain't right.

Three weeks ago, I took our 11-year-old vehicle in for a “recall”. The dealership people were nice and the recall was really only checking that a problematic part had not broken. Since then, we have had one email after another along with a bunch of texts trying to get us to come in and trade our vehicle on a new one.

The recall really was a nothing thing and I suspect it was meant more to get us into the show room than for our safety. I finally had to call them and tell their sales team to knock it off.