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To: Owen
At least one video shows the plane burning as it nosed into the ground. Fire before the crash.

Juan Brown (blancolirio) on YouTube says no - that was just the takeoff lights. He suspects it might be a case of somatogravic illusion - the pilot climbed quickly into the overcast (400' ceiling) and got disoriented on the first turn. Plane was operating at full power and looked like it went into an excessive left bank, causing it to rapidly lose altitude and go straight in at a high speed. This has happened quite a few times in previous air crashes.

34 posted on 02/02/2025 10:23:09 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Mr. Jeeves
"He suspects it might be a case of somatogravic illusion - the pilot climbed quickly into the overcast (400' ceiling) and got disoriented on the first turn. Plane was operating at full power and looked like it went into an excessive left bank, causing it to rapidly lose altitude and go straight in at a high speed. This has happened quite a few times in previous air crashes. "

Unfortunately this ties everything up, based on the Ring video where the couple are chatting and leaving, and you see the plane "Do a barrel roll" absurd bank out of the 400' mist straight into the ground in the space of 3 seconds.

FAA will likely go back and trace the pendejo pilot group credit cards and see how bad the bar tab was...

61 posted on 02/02/2025 1:03:03 PM PST by StAnDeliver (TrumpII)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
That is another plausible cause of the accident. The flight trajectory data does show a surprising slowdown in rate of climb before the final dive. That could indicate an engine problem or a confused pilot.

Reported flight data

73 posted on 02/02/2025 2:52:06 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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