Posted on 01/28/2025 8:10:52 AM PST by MtnClimber
Deep Six.
Psyop and propaganda.
And short sell vehicle.
DeepSeek has 50,000 Nvidia H100 chips.
that sounds like a lot of money and power, the h100 card I am using cost $27k and uses 350watts
I’m surprised at how quickly this new AI has gained broad acceptance. I personally don’t think that it is feasible to develop such a thing at this low a cost. They don’t get paid as well as American engineers for one thing. Also they are not above lying.
Thought something similar when I first heard about this yesterday.
It’s a classic tactic in technology wars, to “freeze” product-adoption decisions by potential users. It occurs when a new technology is released, and is getting a big buzz and a lot of investment, AND when the slower market-player is way behind the curve with their own offering. The A.I. marketplace is exactly in this state today.
If successful, China hopes they can cause potential A.I. users to defer purchase decisions and their own development and integration investments, waiting for the (now) expected release of China’s product.
Common components when using this tactic are to announce that your own product is as good as, if not better than the current market leader, that it will be available very soon, and that it will come at a much lower cost.
To me, this whole charade is China effectively announcing that they agree A.I. is going to be huge, that they’re going to be a player, and that they’re behind in the A.I. “arms race”.
I’m deeply skeptical as well. Let’s wait and see if it’s for real.
What can you tell us about it?
Less W than I would have expected given the 5000 series' needs.
“””Anyone who uses deepseek and rednote are as good as spies for the Chinese.”””
I suppose you are referring to apps? We have been messing with deepseek sandboxed for a bit and we are not “spies”. It’s open source.
sure it is, all Chinese stuff is perfectly safe. They are our good friends and would never do anything to hack us.
“””sure it is, all Chinese stuff is perfectly safe. They are our good friends and would never do anything to hack us.”””
Huh? Sarcasm, I presume. I was referring to apps. For example, I’d never use TikTok.
DeepSeek vs ChatGTP for code building as we have compared them recently isn’t a fair fight. DeepSeek is pretty cool. Note that DeepSeek is open source so putting it into a sandbox and messing with it isn’t a big deal.
FYI, I built one of the first large Intel based systems decades ago. Experimental cards, etc. I found Linus very early on and ported a number of things from commercial Unix like SCO to Linux. I’ve been running Linux servers 24/7/365 for over 3 decades. The list goes on. I’ve got some real nerds around me and they are telling me that DeepSeek is a game changer from a developers standpoint vs anything else like Chat, etc.
As far as the Chinese go all I can say is “thanks for the new free toy”.
“””DeepSeek has 50,000 Nvidia H100 chips.”””
The notion that DeepSeek is a negative for NVDA for some reason seems a bit odd considering that. We bought more NVDA today.
Very much sarcasm. I can see everyone world wide create nifty neato code with DeepSeek that will go directly into the hands of the Chi-Coms. Anything out of China should not be trusted, sandboxed or not.
“””I can see everyone world wide create nifty neato code with DeepSeek that will go directly into the hands of the Chi-Coms. Anything out of China should not be trusted, sandboxed or not.”””
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