Good Lord you can’t get through to either one of them… I haven’t seen either around lately
Mostly they were paid to help. The USG paid people to try to influence the outcome.
They helped kill fellow freepers with their “safe and effective “ bs they promoted. Turns out the USG WAS PAYING PEOPLE. IDK if either was part of the $ but they sure did push. I vote for bans. Same with Mr cruise man whoever that idiot was.