Posted on 01/21/2025 8:48:22 AM PST by packagingguy
“Rumor is not only are the prisoners not being released the jailers are reportedly saying that there has to be a conviction and sentencing for a pardon to be valid”
A flat assed lie. You do not even have to be charged. Trump needs to send the US Marshals to those prisons, release those hostages and arrest anyone who claims a right to keep holding them.
Perhaps the loved ones should ban together, make a very public deadline with copies of the pardon, and slowly walk to the prisons with cameras rolling, all of them at the same time.
It’s very close to time to storm the Bastille. They should do it for Trump, because that is their batter option.
Then all of the Biden Syndicate pre-emptive pardons are void.
It’s insubordination, grounds for immediate termination. See how they like that.
Good luck with the rent.
Best message President Trump can send to the administrative state is that he is in charge now. Don’t like it, get out or get fired.
“They mean if they’re just being held with charges that they can’t be released.”
They sure as hell can. The charges are gone. And they had better be immediately.
Pretty timid. Trump issued an order. It was not followed. There must be consequences. Who will enforce that?
Battle Scarred Trump...
Don’t want to get Him Upset ¡
They can use their pardon after they are convicted.
Time to dox the heads of those prisons. The need to start seeing protests at their homes.
In pre-1789 France, the Bastille, an old fort/castle, had become the “political prison” of Louis XV and XVI in Paris, the center of state power. It was reserved for people who affronted the regimes views on religion, and those who published “seditious” books or violated strict rules on government control of printing.
Funny how the same themes keep repeating in history.
You do not have to be convicted, or even charged, to exercise a pardon. That has never been the case.
What Fed department is over the Bureau of Prisons?
Because they will be occupying the cells of those they used to torture.
Officials who slow-walk or ignore the President’s pardons/commutations need to be criminally charged, fired or replaced.
If they are refusing to immediate release and continuing to incarcerate pardoned prisoners, they are violating federal law and the Constitution.
Article II, Section 2, Clause 1:
The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.
The only diference in each of the prisoners is that of the 1500, 900 have been convicted and their after jail access to certain amenities will be denied. Of those not convicted, they lose nothing.
wy69
Good point.
Maybe Trump could send in the U.S. Marshalls to force their release?
I say send massive swat teams to the homes of those who are slow rolling at 6 am tomorrow.
And while the Marshalls are on their way to prisons President Trump ought FIRE the employees, wipe away their taxpayer-funded pensions and telling the union they are ‘next.’
They keep acting as though “lawfare” cannot revert into it’s root word, “warfare”. If the rest of the world is a guide, the head jailer, the guards, etc would get a photo of their family walking into school, or out at a restaurant.
If they still refuse to let them out, people start getting shot while pumping gas, kidnapped, found in the morning hanging from an overpass, etc.
This has been the experience in Sicily, Mexico, Columbia, Venezuela, etc.
It is exceedingly dangerous for the people to gain critical mass around the idea that the law is a one way street and is ignored when it falls in their favor. THAT is why people take the law into their own hands. It is way beyond dangerous for them to refuse releases after a presidential pardon.
Trump needs to act forcefully and rapidly to stop this insurrection at the prisons.
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