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You realize the Feds can now Censor Free Republic?
FR (For how long?) ^ | Jan 18 | RF

Posted on 01/18/2025 12:52:12 AM PST by RandFan

Dismayed by the amount of support the TikTok Ban is getting and a Unanimous decision by the men and women in black robes further alarms me and will just embolden the Feds and Congress to engage in more online censorship.

How come some (most?) Freepers don't see this? Are you still watching the networks and believing the foreign entity stuff?

You understand that the legislation is broader than that?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: ban; ccpspyware; chicoms; closedmind; commiemalware; concerntroll; pantiesinabunch; socialmedia; tiktok; tokeagainandcalmdown; weeweedup
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To: RandFan

How did the tiktok ban idea get started anyway. Trump may have iniated it in his first term, I’m afraid…


21 posted on 01/18/2025 1:15:10 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: RandFan

Chinese Intelligence has immediate access and collection through their 2017 Intel law and subsequent legal acts. Its why military recruiters, the DOD, and then the government first dropped bans years ago.


22 posted on 01/18/2025 1:17:11 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

The military wanted it first.


23 posted on 01/18/2025 1:18:12 AM PST by Jonty30 (If you ate your twin in the womb, your pronouns should be we/us.)
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To: RandFan

Chinese Intelligence has immediate access and collection through their 2017 Intel law and subsequent legal acts. Its why military recruiters, the DOD, and then the government first


24 posted on 01/18/2025 1:18:13 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: KC_Conspirator

We don’t need to assist them through their own program.


25 posted on 01/18/2025 1:18:43 AM PST by Jonty30 (If you ate your twin in the womb, your pronouns should be we/us.)
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To: Lazamataz

Yes it’s good he won, we have a reprieve but realize a future Admin. can abuse this law. It ALWAYS happens!


26 posted on 01/18/2025 1:20:02 AM PST by RandFan
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To: RandFan

I’m going to author a porn version. My working name for it will be Dik Dok.


27 posted on 01/18/2025 1:21:04 AM PST by Lazamataz (The BEST birthday present I ever got WAS DONALD TRUMP WINNING IN 2024!!!)
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To: RandFan

Unfortunately, you’re right on that point.
Liberals are anarcho-communists. A little big of realistic regulation means getting total control to the liberal.


28 posted on 01/18/2025 1:21:09 AM PST by Jonty30 (If you ate your twin in the womb, your pronouns should be we/us.)
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To: RandFan
Yes it’s good he won, we have a reprieve

You and I think the same on this. Trump's victory, while amazing and wonderful, is merely a four-year pause.

I'll take it.

29 posted on 01/18/2025 1:22:32 AM PST by Lazamataz (The BEST birthday present I ever got WAS DONALD TRUMP WINNING IN 2024!!!)
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To: RandFan

ok. if this amounts entirely to our crappy tyrannical uniparty gov’t again striking directly at free speech then i’m with you. i’m going to reserve a hearing for Thomas and Alito though as i respect their juris prudence.

otherwise, i’m very close to being a free-speech absolutist among voting age citizens/adults. at a minimum there has to be built in protection from moral harm and full parental consent for any content available for children or dependents however.


30 posted on 01/18/2025 1:23:55 AM PST by dadfly
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

You raise a good point no one covers themselves in glory as far as I’m concerned

Trump is (now) trying to find a solution but they really “boxed” him in on this with the Jan 19 date, it’s also an act of Congress.

Little he can do but sympathize with the huge amount of complaints coming next week

That’s what I think he knows and why he’s now talking about solutions.


31 posted on 01/18/2025 1:25:02 AM PST by RandFan
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To: dadfly

“public square social media site.”

You actually answered your own question with this statement. The issue of free speech does not come in to play for the platform it’s self. It applies to the U.S. citizen users of that platform. They have free speech rights as long as TikTok provides them an open public square to exercise that right. So the whole issue is not actually about suppressing TikTok the company. It is about suppressing the rights of those who use the platform including U.S. businesses who advertise there.

This is greatly going to impact U.S. businesses and put a dent in the economy. It is going to harm us much more than it is going to harm China. And there is absolutely nothing on TikTok that China cannot get from any other forward facing public platforms who are also collecting private data and selling it. It is ignorant to even think this is going to make one bit of difference to China.


32 posted on 01/18/2025 1:25:09 AM PST by Openurmind
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To: Lazamataz

He cleverly elevated Vance which gives the potential for some longevity

And I trust and like both.


33 posted on 01/18/2025 1:26:51 AM PST by RandFan
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To: Openurmind

thanks for that. i tend to agree.

so then why did the uniparty pass the ban? and why did the USSC uphold it?


34 posted on 01/18/2025 1:28:57 AM PST by dadfly
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To: Jonty30

They will twist it and apply that law in other areas when opportunity arises.

If it was just tiktok it could have been a one line bill

But it wasn’t and you should know what the US CONgress is like

That law will come back and haunt us like so many others. In my opinion of course...


35 posted on 01/18/2025 1:32:52 AM PST by RandFan
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To: RandFan
Not really:
(2) Controlled by a foreign adversary

The term "controlled by a foreign adversary" means, with respect to an individual or entity, that such individual or entity is-

(A) a foreign person that is domiciled in, is headquartered in, has its principal place of business in, or is organized under the laws of a foreign adversary country;

(B) an entity with respect to which a foreign person or combination of foreign persons described in subparagraph (A) directly or indirectly own at least a 20 percent stake; or

(C) a person subject to the direction or control of a foreign person or entity described in subparagraph (A) or (B).


36 posted on 01/18/2025 1:37:55 AM PST by fluorescence
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To: dadfly

“so then why did the uniparty pass the ban? and why did the USSC uphold it?”

Because it is not about TikTok. They knew all this fact before they even drafted the bill. It is about incrementally getting government control over the internet. They did the exact same thing with the Patriot Act. They used it to gain more control over the people.

We have to remember that governments true intentions and goals are NEVER what they say they are. Somewhere there is always a Trojan Horse in the language of the bill that screws the people and hands them even more power over the people.


37 posted on 01/18/2025 1:39:15 AM PST by Openurmind
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To: fluorescence

All these definitions can be twisted and it happens all the time

If it was truly about tiktok then why this law and not a one line bill ? Think please.

What Trump has gone through these last 8 years with contorted definitions under Foreign Intelligence acts and God knows what else I would have thought more Freepers would be clued up

Evidently not........


38 posted on 01/18/2025 1:41:30 AM PST by RandFan
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To: RandFan; All

FR is unlikely to fall under the control of/be purchased by a “foreign adversary nation”...so no the “TikTok law” cannot be used to censor FR:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/7521/text

https://codes.findlaw.com/us/title-10-armed-forces/10-usc-sect-4872/

Current “foreign adversary nations”: North Korea, the People’s Republic of China, Russian Federation and the Islamic Republic of Iran.


39 posted on 01/18/2025 1:43:01 AM PST by Drago
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To: Openurmind

I’m glad your saying these things as well. Actually, there’s more skeptical than I thought.

That ruling was awful


40 posted on 01/18/2025 1:44:17 AM PST by RandFan
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