Michels can be amusing when he starts dancing around issues related to the Secret Space Program.
At times he seems convinced it is very real—at other times he acts as though he does not believe it (when he talks about how research is still needed on topics x,y,z).
I think he probably needs one more piece of evidence to convince him—and imho he is gonna bump into it sooner rather than later.
The key issue—has the Deep State discovered and mastered radically new physics and then technology—not just for spacecraft but also for consciousness?
You know my views on that topic.
:-)
If you havem’t already seen the Ryan/Gallaudet interview, you are in for a treat.