Generally, liars agree with the lies they spew. But even then, some of them know its not true and only seek to accomplish some goal so whatever lies do it are good lies for the day. Even if they're wearing black robes.
In another reply on a different day I might have said: I don't care that the courts disagree with. The courts are wrong. We have the original documentation as proof.
"and they have the power to enforce their stupid and wrong headed ideas."
We have the power to admit that they're making it up out of thin air and that they are lying about the source of their ability. Having the power to enforce a lie, the spark at the beginning is still ultimately a lie and yes it matters.
"The tool is an ill defined blob of power, and they used it like a hammer. Had it been more refined and better written, they would not have been able to use it like a hammer to beat the law into any form they liked."
That may be true in a select category of items, but the debate notes for the 14th amendment are blindingly specific.
You are not an originalist simply because you choose not to be an originalist. There's no rule that forces a rejection of originalism here. It's all on you. You wouldn't be replying as you do if coming from an originalist position.
"I absolutely do trust them to abuse power."
Not what I said.
No wonder you trust the progressives and their machinations. You are very determined to support the doctrine of the living and breathing constitution here. Perhaps the mistake I am making is that I just don't ask directly since you appear to be trying to get out of it.
So why is it that you support this here? Why is it that when a progressive says "oh yeah man I used the 14th amendment" that you'll never distrust them. You will always categorically agree with them automatically? What makes "I used the 14th amendment" the God's honest truth to you if a progressive states it? It certainly isn't the convention/debate notes text that created the 14th amend. So what is it? And yes, I am absolutely categorizing this correctly, "used" is your terminology. "and they used it like a hammer" <------ See! See! *pointing* See, there's that sneaky progressivism trust again you're letting it leak out. There it is right there you trust them and believe what they say. How does that trust keep getting in there? Why is it there? Why is that trust of progressives so rock solid for you? I cannot understand. An originalist could let this rock-solid trust go because progressives have proven to be unfit, unworthy of being believed.
And you know I have to respond. No, they didn't use it like a hammer, that's impossible. This tool does not enable that sort of activity. Just like using a fire extinguisher like a rocket to reach the moon is equally impossible. It's. Not. Possible. You can't use a saw blade by itself to make phone calls. It's not possible. It's a cutting tool. That's what it does.
Perhaps I need to ask a completely different question altogether. Maybe my approach is wrong.
Do you consider yourself an originalist or a textualist? Because if you consider yourself a textualist, then it is no wonder that you completely trash the debate notes that created the 14th amendment, and any other documents that may shine light upon meaning.(Ala the role that the Federalist Papers play for the COTUS itself) As a 14th textualist, it makes perfect complete sense why you'd trash the 14th debate notes for the junk they are and anything else, because that's clearly all trash.
In asking if you're a textualist and not an originalist, please know that I'm doing a little self examination here. I know that getting an answer often means asking the correct question. Maybe I just haven't asked the correct question yet.
So its said, I'm pretty close to letting this go at this point. I'm not trying to beat the horse or be a pest or anything like that. I have for a long time now been unable to understand why the doctrine of the living and breathing constitution is so popular in the context we are discussing. Don't misunderstand, I hope that today or the next day I'll come to learn. The cynic/realist in me thinks I will continue to not understand. This: "I used the 14th amendment" the God's honest truth! <----- I think I will remain not knowing why. I wish it was not so. But I've not known for a long time and I have made peace with it. It'll be something I bring up again in the future because I can't help it, I genuinely want to know and I seek answers so you can expect to see it again in the future. Asking is the only way to get the answers.
I say that all the time. Very nearly every single day.
I doubt you will find a bigger critic of the courts than myself on Free Republic.
We have the power to admit that they're making it up out of thin air and that they are lying about the source of their ability.
We have the power to say that to ourselves and the people in our small sphere of influence, but we certainly don't have the power to put it on the national airwaves and make the bulk of the American people understand it.
The media-liars control that, and they like the ridiculous and stupid court decisions.