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To: buwaya

I’m not going to say that healthcare is more expensive in the US than Europe, because Europe uses the general tax base to fund healthcare through hidden taxes. If somebody could do an honest evaluation, it’s probably a lot closer than one realizes.

You’re right that the US is more socialized than it used to be, but that’s the corrupting influence of the anti-Christ system of socialism. It corrupts everything and leaves the systems the corrupt eventually bankrupt with no way out.

Europe saves money by relying on the US to subsidize their military and the research the US does also gets piggy-backed on by Europe and other countries.


17 posted on 12/23/2024 5:09:41 PM PST by Jonty30 (Genghis Khan did not have the most descendants. His father had more. )
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To: Jonty30

Medical expenditures per capita in the US, on a PPP basis (cost parity) are something like 50% higher than the Euro average. This has been so for the last 30 years.

Euro taxes are NOT hidden! They stare me in the face daily!

This has nothing to do with how these medical expenditures are paid for. Nor has it anything to do with US military expenditures. Medical care is a rather smaller part of social spending in Europe than in the US, believe it or not. Pensions, unemployment, general government salaries (the size of the state, for instance there are way more police per capita in Europe), thats the big difference.

Its simply that anything medical in the US is vastly more expensive than in Europe. The US has piles of regulatory and legal complications that drive costs up. Its a bit counterintuitive to say that a US “free market” is more burdened by regulation than “socialist” systems, but it is true regardless.


22 posted on 12/23/2024 5:22:58 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Jonty30

“I’m not going to say that healthcare is more expensive in the US than Europe, because Europe uses the general tax base to fund healthcare through hidden taxes. If somebody could do an honest evaluation, it’s probably a lot closer than one realizes.”

Look about 45% of the way down:
https://www.bma.org.uk/advice-and-support/nhs-delivery-and-workforce/funding/health-funding-data-analysis

USA 14.1% of GDP

Germany 10.9% of GDP

Australia 7% of GDP

“The range of reimbursable curative care services is defined by two coexisting positive lists/fee schedules: the Classification Commune des Actes Médicaux (CCAM) and the Nomenclature Générale des Actes Professionnels (NGAP).”

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1388081/

Per capita health expenditures in $PPPs
4,600.4
(2016)
9,892.3
(2016)
5,550.6
(2016)
5,385.4
(2016)
3,248.4
(2016)
4,192.5

Guess which one is for the USA.

https://wagner.nyu.edu/files/faculty/publications/French.health.system.03.2018%20(1).pdf


25 posted on 12/23/2024 5:35:02 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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