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To: EBH
From a Judeo-Christian perspective, the "whole of creation" is groaning from the curse brought down by Adam (Romans 8:22). That wouldn't be right to have other sentient species suffering from our misbehavior. And the whole of creation will be restored with the return of Christ. So that would seem to rule out sentient life besides our own (and angels/demons).

On a secular side, one can challenge the Fermi paradox by pointing out that interstellar colonization is not so easy as most people assume. One would have to send a large enough vessel to have self-sustaining, technologically advanced population able to replicate everything technological, maintain genetic health and so on, with the energy to go fast enough to reach other stars without being slowly destroyed by high-speed micro-impacts along the way. So far it is a real stretch of faith to imagine such a thing is possible, with all imagined examples involving some level of fiction.

10 posted on 12/21/2024 9:04:44 AM PST by EnderWiggin1970
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To: EnderWiggin1970

Perhaps it is God’s plan to have humanity serve as his agent to spread life throughout the cosmos.


12 posted on 12/21/2024 9:14:07 AM PST by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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To: EnderWiggin1970
Rogue planets are the answer to space colonization. Just hitch a ride on a wandering planet and you have the biggest fro en ark that you can imagine.

Star Trek did an episode on this https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0572231/

22 posted on 12/21/2024 9:25:02 AM PST by wildcard_redneck
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To: EnderWiggin1970

I think that is Fermi’s point from a secular perspective- whatever you could imagine would have taken place by now if you accept things have been around and evolving much longer than this speck we live on has been around.

In my mind from a spiritual perspective; we are not meant to go ‘beyond’ until His time has been accomplished here. Israel is a chosen people and place (a chosen planet as well). The ‘beyond’ knows the reality - while we argue over the Mahdi or Yeshua as the point of reconciliation to the Father in Heaven. We have not achieved the spiritual maturity to reach beyond our planet - that is why we can be manipulated by what hides in the dark. I used to dream 50 years ago I could travel to the moon or Mars as an adult. Too much reality is yet to be revealed to allow us to explore creation. We can’t yet be honest with ourselves - what exists ‘beyond’ would not treat us kindly, or justly.


36 posted on 12/21/2024 9:43:03 AM PST by linedrive ( )
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To: EnderWiggin1970
From a Judeo-Christian perspective...

The Bible tells us that God created us because he was lonely, and wanted to share Love. Given that God characterizes Infinite Love, do you see any sense in Him building a universe with billions of homes, and then populating only one?

I don't.

44 posted on 12/21/2024 10:26:10 AM PST by GingisK
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To: EnderWiggin1970

I think once you tackle the energy/speed thing, colonization could be easier if you could quickly search for the right place.

I would send out drones to search, kind of like we’ve been doing for 60 years. When a place that looks promising is found, you take a closer look.

But the energy/speed thing is a BIG thing.


60 posted on 12/21/2024 11:04:51 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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