[ansel12]

You guys should learn more about JFK, almost everything we think that LBJ dreamed up actually was a continuation of JFK’s goals and programs, for example, New Frontier into Great Society, Vietnam, the 65 Immigration Act, Affirmative Action, and on and on.

[Ditto]

I don’t think you can lay all that on Kennedy. Kennedy was a lot of things, but he wasn’t nearly as devious and calculating as Johnson was. The Civil Rights Act would have passed no matter who was president then. It was way past time for that to happen.

Johnson schemes went way beyond any of that. He used the bully pulpit to build a welfare state that we are unable to deal with even now. And he was warned that it would destroy the black family structure. He didn’t give a damn. It brought money and political power to the Democrats and that is all he cared about.

Vietnam and Johnson’s inability to deal with it in a sensible way is what brought him down.