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James Webb Space Telescope Confirms Controversial ‘Hubble Tension’ in Most Extensive Study of Universal Expansion
The Debrief ^ | December 09, 2024 | Christopher Plain

Posted on 12/09/2024 10:59:26 PM PST by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger

I’ll have to remember to ask Him!.................


41 posted on 12/10/2024 9:39:23 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: UCANSEE2

Scientists have preached about the Big Bang Theory as long as I can remember, the James Webb Telescope we are told allows us to see back in time to withing a few million years of when the big bang occurred.

To me this theory raises more questions than it answers, before the big bang, what was the universe, what materials were gathered together when the big bang happened, what caused the big bang, scientists offer a solution to something that is not scientific, a large mass of material we have no idea how it got there or why it exploded or even when it happened, but we know it did...

What if our universe is but one of an infinite number of universes all in different dimensions.

IMO, the answers to how the universe was formed and when are unknowable, unless you have a belief in a supreme being aka God or some power far beyond anything we can comprehend.

We can’t even explain the ancient history of Earth much less the galaxy or universe.

No one has a proven explanation of how the pyramids were built or why other ancient cultures have pyramid type structures of a similar shape and design, this is just one example of an ancient culture with some type of technology we have yet to explain, I read articles and hear from supposedly knowledgeable people that provide evidence of advanced cultures far earlier than current science says ancient cultures existed.

My point, we don’t even know how the Earth was formed and how intelligent life came about or even a reliable timeline of the development of advanced ancient cultures, much less trying to figure out the origins of the galaxy or universe.


42 posted on 12/10/2024 10:04:42 AM PST by srmanuel
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To: Red Badger

“However, unlike cosmological models that predicted this expansion should be around 67-68 kilometers per second per megaparsec (Mpc), the readings from Hubble showed a mean expansion of around 73 km/s/Mpc. Several attempts have been made to shrink this discrepancy enough that it could be blamed on instrument errors or other faults in the model. Those efforts have failed, leading to the puzzle called the Hubble Tension. “

Hubble should take two aspirin and then call me.

Maybe instead of the EXPANSION being faster than predicted, it is that TIME flows at a different rate in various parts of the Universe.

We have defined ‘time’ and limited it, but the Universe may be under no such limitations.

Even the basis of our time travel theories stipulate that the faster an object goes, the more the time differential gap between it and some other object/place.

For instance, you travel faster than Speed of light from Andromeda to Earth. Time elapsed for you is 1 year and for those on Earth it has been 200 years (numbers not meant to be accurate, only for illustration). If it was 200 years for Earthlings, it was 200 years for the planet. First, it wouldn’t be in the location expected from a 1 year trip. Second, does that mean that it’s expected ‘expansion’ movement should be calculated based on 200 years or 1 year.

Would you then be out of sync with all objects in the Universe ? Would that difference be different for each object based on the object’s distance from your origin and destination point ?


43 posted on 12/10/2024 10:28:30 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Be kind to unkind people. They need it the most.)
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To: Red Badger

This article (and THANKS for posting it) resembles Einstein’s remark that
‘The more I learn, the more I realize how much I don’t know.’


44 posted on 12/10/2024 10:33:22 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Be kind to unkind people. They need it the most.)
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“we don’t even know how the Earth was formed and how intelligent life came about or even a reliable timeline of the development of advanced ancient cultures, much less trying to figure out the origins of the galaxy or universe.”

Agreed.

That is why I just point and laugh at the “follow the science” crowd.

They are the modern witch-doctors.


45 posted on 12/10/2024 10:37:35 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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To: Red Badger

Here’s a fascinating thought.

If the Universe collapsed down to the size of our local cluster of galaxies, we wouldn’t even know about it for millions of years.


46 posted on 12/10/2024 10:38:12 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Be kind to unkind people. They need it the most.)
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Consider this: They say that once we figure out the physics of the Universe, in an instant it will all change to something completely different.

AND, it has happened six times already.


47 posted on 12/10/2024 1:43:59 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Be kind to unkind people. They need it the most.)
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To: srmanuel

Thank you for the response. I agree with you completely.


48 posted on 12/10/2024 2:10:36 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Be kind to unkind people. They need it the most.)
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To: Red Badger
The Earth is spinning about 2000mph on it’s axis, 18.5 miles per second as it revolves around the Sun, 143 miles per second as the Sun revolves around the Milky Way Galaxy, which is

And now for something exactly the same. Monty Python's Musical Version: Monty Python - The Meaning of Life

Lyrics:

Whenever life gets you down, Mrs. Brown
And things seem hard or tough
And people are stupid
Obnoxious or daft
And you feel that you've had Quite enough

Just remember that you're standing
On a planet that's evolving
And revolving at nine hundred miles an hour
That's orbiting at nineteen miles a second
So it's reckoned

The sun that is the source of all our power
The sun and you and me and all the stars that we can see
Are moving at a million miles a day
In an outer spiral arm, at four hundred thousand miles an hour
In the galaxy we call the Milky Way

Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars
It's a hundred thousand light years side to side
It bulges in the middle, six thousand light years thick
But out by us, it's just a thousand light years wide

We're thirty thousand light years from galactic central point
We go 'round every two hundred million years
And our galaxy is only one of millions of billions
In this amazing and expanding universe

The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding
In all of the directions it can whizz
As fast as it can go, of the speed of light, you know
Twelve million miles a minute and that's the fastest speed there is

So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure
How amazingly unlikely is your birth
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere out in space
'Cause it's bugger all down here on Earth

49 posted on 12/10/2024 2:26:46 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Be kind to unkind people. They need it the most.)
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