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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; SaveFerris; chopperk; volare737; Openurmind; grumpygresh
After I sent about a couple Babylon Bee articles, I had the following discussion with a liberal/progressive/moron who I cannot avoid

“For the record, I believe General Milley was right to what he did. We had an extremely corrupt, unstable, incompetent, and dangerous Commander in Chief who was capable of lying, cheating, and any form of corrupting American principles to retain his two major obsessions: self-enrichment and self-aggrandizement.”

”No, he was not right. Civilian control of the military is sacrosanct and can never be violated. Remember Truman fired MacArthur. Milley took an oath to support and defend the Constitution and not an oath to obey a president. Within the parameters and duties of office, he and the other JCOS can forestall military actions they consider illegal.”

“As far as “corrupting American principles” goes Trump was one of the few who took their oath of office seriously and did so with his judicial appointments. As far as “ corrupt, unstable, incompetent, and dangerous” goes, those were asymmetrical analysis points provided daily by the traditional media.”

“In terms of forestalling military actions, I can give this example from Vietnam. McNamara had always stood between the JCOS and Johnson about Vietnam, but finally the JCOS became united, and this was the day of reckoning for them. Based on what occurred as related below, the proper course of action for them would have been to resign and in civilian clothes the next day have held a press conference and explained their reason for resigning. All of them as junior officers had risked a lot for than pensions and possible court martials.”

I remembered hearing we have been there before and this time I traced the source. In a Canadian Broadcasting Company documentary Dean Rusk said, “he and Defense Secretary Robert McNamara provided the North Vietnam government the list of targets the U.S. planned to bomb the next day. Our detailed aerial attack plans were relayed through the Swiss Embassy in DC to their Swiss Embassy in Hanoi”.

Of course, the NVA would concentrate their air defenses at those locations, but then at least the military was not usurping civilian authority.

General Milley: 'I Had To Commit Treason To Prevent Trump From Committing Treason'

https://babylonbee.com/news/general-milley-i-had-to-commit-treason-to-prevent-trump-from-committing-treason/

General Milley Rides Through Streets Of Beijing Shouting ‘The Americans Are Coming!’

https://babylonbee.com/news/general-milley-rides-through-streets-of-beijing-shouting-the-americans-are-coming/

Vietnam 1965: The Day It Became the Longest War

Extended Remarks: Vietnam 1965: The Day It Became the Longest War

General Pete Piotrowski Says U.S. Alerted North Vietnamese before Bombing Strikes-Authorship Confirmed!

https://www.truthorfiction.com/general-pete-piotrowski-says-us-alerted-north-vietnamese-before-bombing-strikes/

28 posted on 12/06/2024 8:23:59 AM PST by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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To: Retain Mike
The liberal that you referred to was obviously a total moron. I have no idea why could cannot avoid him, but I sure would!

There is just no way in the world I would waste one minute of my time to respond to someone that clueless and idiotic.

32 posted on 12/06/2024 9:40:45 AM PST by volare737 (Diversity is something to be overcome, not celebrated.)
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To: Retain Mike

Thank you for that excellent history and references!


35 posted on 12/06/2024 1:20:41 PM PST by Openurmind
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