The interview with Fonda went quite well. It pointed out her naiveté on the direction the democrats are going. It also got pretty deep towards the end regarding relationships. Worth an hour of your time.
Back when I watched television some 25 years ago and Bill Maher was new, I used to kind of like his show and some of his points of view. But I realized after a while that he was just a blowhard, and lost interest, and since then, have been repulsed by him.
To me, listening to him is like listening to Senator Fetterman (!).
Every once in a while, a semi-sensible thing comes out of him, then just as rapidly, disappears into the quiet opaque fog of Leftism that encompasses him. I simply pay zero attention to him anymore.
Or Maher.